I have bar end's and can see just fine out back. When I replaced them with stock mirrors (for all of a 1/2 a day) all I got was a nice view of my biceps. Seeings as I continually forget to take my steroids in the morning, I went back to the bar ends and have been happy ever since. Maybe it was the low-rise bars on at the time, maybe the stock mirrors wern't all that stock, probably some pilot error, but I couldn't adjust them to where I could see anything. I like my bar end mirrors.