Topic: PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOUNTED THEIR BATTERY UNDER THEIR SEAT - WHERE'D YOU GET IT ?

[ProTeal55]

As the topic states, I am in dire need to figure out a plac where I can source a battery that will:

1. Work with my CB450 project to power up the starter/signals/headlight and the rest of the stuff
2. Is some sorta gel design that will allow it to be mounted on it's side/back so it can fit under the hump of my cafe seat...

I am guessing a "sealed" battery won't work mounted on it's side, becasue eventually the acid will leak/seap out. All points lead me to some sort of "gel" battery, but I am not having much luck sourcing them out for what I need..

So all u guys running 550's with no sidecovers, what kinda battery you got, where'ed you get it, etc...

[Andoo]

I have an Odyssey PC535 gell battery under my cafe hump. It's on its side to fit.

http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=ODY-PC535

[ProTeal55]

I have an Odyssey PC535 gell battery under my cafe hump. It's on its side to fit.
http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=ODY-PC535

That battery weighs 13 lbs !
Is that the exact one you are using on your scoot ?
I have heard nothing but negative things about Odyssey batteries.
How long have you had yours ? Any issues ?

[Jinxracing]

I was just about to post a similar question...beat me to it. 

From the research I've been doing, AGM seems to be the way to go and can be mounted in any orientation. Here's a link that explains the differences in battery types:
http://www.batterystuff.com/tutorial_battery.html

Here's a page that lists batteries by size and spec:
http://www.batteryspec.com/html/sla_battery.html

My question was more about size vs. performance. I'm thinking about using a thinner, smaller than stock battery. Aside from reduced battery performance which doesn't bother me (I plan on kicking alot  ), is there any danger inherent to using a smaller than stock battery? I assume it would be fine, but would like opinions.

[Andoo]

Exact one, no problems that I know of. In use for about 5-6 months. Yes it’s larger than stock, and yes its heavy.
I have an 836 and it takes some juice to get that cranking over on a cold day.
I wouldn’t think you'd need such a large battery on your 450.

[ProTeal55]

Looks like this one is the way to go - to maintain all power functions ----->

http://www.tempestbatteries.com/html/tr4-12.html

So this battery can be mounted on it's side with no chance of leaking ?

[Andoo]

the website says they are sealed lead acid batterys which is a "gel" battery. You should have no problem with it on its side.

[hahnda]

I would go for one with a few more amp hours if it will fit. Maybe one like this.

http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=SLA-12V12

[Jinxracing]

Here's another resource explaining the differences:

http://www.vonwentzel.net/Battery/01.Type/index.html

Here's an excerpt:

"Absorbed Glass Mat (AGM) batteries are the latest step in the evolution of lead-acid batteries. Instead of using a gel, an AGM uses a fiberglass like separator to hold the electrolyte in place. The physical bond between the separator fibers, the lead plates, and the container make AGMs spill-proof and the most vibration and impact resistant lead-acid batteries available today. Even better, AGMs use almost the same voltage set-points as flooded cells and thus can be used as drop-in replacements for flooded cells.

Basically, an AGM can do anything a Gel-cell can, only better. However, since they are also sealed, charging has to be controlled carefully or they too can be ruined in short order."

[andy750]

I have an AGM and have been using it for a few months (standard position) and its really good! No issues or problems - fires right up every time. Im buying another in the Spring for bike #2.

cheers
Andy

[ProTeal55]

I would go for one with a few more amp hours if it will fit. Maybe one like this.

http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=SLA-12V12

Ordered !
Thanks for all the quick help - it is very much appreciated...

[Roach Carver]

I would go for one with a few more amp hours if it will fit. Maybe one like this.

http://www.batterymart.com/battery.mv?p=SLA-12V12

Ordered !
Thanks for all the quick help - it is very much appreciated...

will those terminals work?

[ProTeal55]

Yup !
All I am gonna have to do is cut off the stock battery terminals and go with a spade type.
Which isnt a big deal anyways, becasue pretty much all the wiring on this bike needs to be
custom made anyways...

[chrisf]

I know this doesn't matter because you already ordered your battery...What I plan on doing is using four to six 1 amp/hr batterys and wiring them together. I talked to an EE at work who said the way to do it is to wire all the positives together and all the negatives together. The nice thing about doing this is that 1.) the batteries are small (about the size of a deck of cards) and 2.) more can be added as required. I think they weigh about 1-1.5lbs each.

Luckily, I have quite a few of these batteries running around work.

--ATB, Chris

[bill440cars]

                    Yeah Chris, if the batteries are 12v, you would wire them in parallel (the way you
          described) to build the amperage that you'd need. If you were trying to build up to the required
          voltage, you'd wire them in series (neg to positive, until desired volt was reached). How about
          some more info on those batteries? You know, like Price, availability and such. Or is this just
          something that you have available and too pricey for purchase?

                                                         Later on, Bill

[rt]

PT - I used a stock battery (relocated to the rear of the frame) and coverered it with the tail hump of my home-made cafe seat.

[chrisf]

Hi:

The batteries I'm planning on using are these http://www.advancedbattery.com/itemdesc~product~adix-vs+standard+internal+30+min+backup~ic~pbx8s-i21~eq~~tp~.htm I think they are much lighter than the spec says. I also have one of these (http://www.jaycobattery.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=73&gclid=COGp84uzpIkCFQZoSgodqTEr8Q) sitting under my desk. I'm also considering this.

I'll have a go with one of these because they are free. Can't beat that!

--Chris