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Offline hoodellyhoo

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73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« on: January 14, 2007, 02:20:13 PM »
Alright, I've been kanoodling around these forums for quite some time now so I figured I should finally do my introduction.

My name is Trevor and I am a 19yr old student at UW Oshkosh studying to become a High School math teacher. I live in Menasha, WI and I like long walks on the beach and reading early romantic poetry be candlelight (jk). I have an interest in all things mechanical, mainly vintage tractors (John Deere of course), motorcycles, and cars.

     My interest in motorcycles comes from my father, who owned a motorcycle before a car. When he was young he would get yelled at by the nuns at catholic school for reading motorcycle magazines instead of his textbooks. When he was 16 he saved his pennies and bought a new 1973(?) CB125, and began a long devotion to honda products. In the following years he owned a C'B 360, CM 400 Hawk, a CX500 Custom, Yamaha Seca 750. It is at this point in my dad's motorcycle timeline that he would have to tell you "the Tomahawk story". Basically he attented the Harley gathering in Tomahawk, Wisconsin (a gathering I would highly recomend) and has since been hooked on HD's. He worked a second job painting apartments in order to finance the purchase of a used 1200 sportster and, eventually, a new 1997 1200 sportster. He owned that bike up until the spring of 2006, when he was able to get a good deal on a clean, lower miles 1990 Electra Glide Classic. My dad and my mother enjoy the added comfort and luggage space for their many day trips and overnight getaways to Door County.

     The story of SOHC Four began 8 or so years ago when my dad spotted an ad in the newpaper for a red 1973 CB350 Four in Sheboygan for $600. The next day my dad tok my brother and I to go look at it. It turned out the bike was nearly original (the chrome grab bar in the back had rusted away years before and an aftermarket 4-2 exhaust was poorly welded on), but the gauges, seat, sidecovers, and tank were all in good condition. The bike ran well and a few days later my dad took it home. Soon after he gave the bike a thorough cleaning and adjusted everything. Once the dirt was removed and the chrome polished, the bike looked quite pretty. My dad rode the bike occasionally for about a year or two and replaced the tires in the process. Then the story takes a turn for the (slightly) worse. The drive for the tach broke, making certaing adjustments impossible. Also, The bike developed a condition for blowing fuses. It started quite infrequently but soon got so bad that the bike couldn't be ridden. On the bike's last ride, my dad limped the bike home to find that the rectifier was toast. As soon as the ignition key was turned you could feel the fuse begin to get hot. My dad tried very hard to fix this problem. He repaced the ignition, cleaned and redid the battery terminals, bought a salvaged rectifier and nothing worked. He then dug into the wiring harness, a bit of a foreign land for my dad (as is the case with many of us). He went through and tested every connection and couldn't find any shorts or unusual drawing of current. After many attempts, my dad gave up and the bike began it's 4 year hybernation.

     Then along comes me. I've had motorcycles in my blood all my life but now is the time I figure I should do something about that. I bought a Clymer manual and started nagging my dad to let me have the Honda. On the day after Christmas he said I could have it on the condition that I let him ride it once I get it going. And so I am now the proud owner of a red 1973 CB350 Four. ( I almost feel a little guilty telling this with the recent stories of a free CB and a steal on a 750, don't wanna make people jealous).

So here's where the project stands and what I plan on doing:

1) Rebuild the carbs. I know they've never been rebuilt so that's a must.
2) I plan on buying a new rectifier (maybe a voltage regulator?) from oregon motorcycles.
3) Figure out what the heck is wrong with the electrics. I can't state any good information about the condition of the electrics right now cause it's too damn cold and I dont have a heated garage. I'm pretty sure that if worst comes to worst, I could rebuild the harness myself. I'd like to avoid that for now if possible, but I will do it in the future because I don't trust 35 year old wires.
4) The cam chain is loose. The adjusting bolt is intact (thank god), but I'm pretty sure that it's stuck. I plan on simply getting the bike to run first before adressing this issue, but I'm reasonably sure that the the whole adjusters, chain, and what not will need replacement.
5) get a digital camera and figure out how to post pics.
6) Wait till it gets warm out, get working on it, and start a project thread on the forums to turn to for help and advice.
7)Get a motorcycle license

Despite these tasks, my meager mechanical knowledge and ability, and my severe lack of funds (college student, what do you expect), I am excited to begin this project. My goal is to get her back on the road sometime in the summer. And with your guys' help I should be able to do that. I'd especially love to hear from fellow 350F owers and of any good/cheap parts resources.

PS- My name Hoodellyhoo comes from a song on the cd Space Ghost's Musical Bar B Que.




 
1972 CB350F (Back from the Dead!)- http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=20822.0
1965? S65 - Coming Eventually!
1972 CB750K2 (father-son project)
1976 CB750K6- (sold) http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=96859.0
1976 CB750K6 (sold)- http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=62569.0

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 02:57:14 PM »
Hi Hoodellyhoo
       Try this link http://homepage.ntlworld.com/frank.cooper1/frameset.html
     There is a cheap rectifier there. Also other good ideas.
     There have been several topics about electrical problems recently.
     I have recently purchased a 400F so I will be learning about the small fours too.
          TomC
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Offline aptech77

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 03:07:05 PM »
Pics?

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2007, 03:08:19 PM »
Welcome. I resurected a 350f last winter (see avatar) Mine was in terrible shape, sounds like you have a much better bike to start with than I did. These are really fun little bikes. As far as your electrical problem, I bought a rectifier from Oregon MC parts and it worked great. The FAQ's here have lots of good info on the charging system. One thing I'd do right off the bat would be to remove the sproket cover and look at the bullet connectors in there. It's best to just clip the connectors out of there, and solder all of those wires direct. As far as parts, eBay has 50-100 350f parts every day. Love it or hate it, I would have had a tough time with mine without eBay. Good luck, and let us know how things progress.
Jay
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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2007, 06:28:27 PM »
Welcome hoodellyhoo. Great to have another 350F around (and a red one at that). I wonder how many this makes? Let me know if you need anything.

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2007, 07:21:05 PM »
some pics from 2000 with a new exhaust fitted
1972 CB350F (Back from the Dead!)- http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=20822.0
1965? S65 - Coming Eventually!
1972 CB750K2 (father-son project)
1976 CB750K6- (sold) http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=96859.0
1976 CB750K6 (sold)- http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=62569.0

Offline aptech77

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2007, 09:19:04 PM »
Nice........ 8)

Offline Jay B

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2007, 04:45:32 AM »
Really nice. What kind of exhaust is on there? I really like it.
Jay
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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 09:22:12 AM »
Greetings and and a warm welcome (despite the cold and snow) from Milwaukee!  I am a UWO grad (1999).  Glad to have you here, and nice bike.  You'll find everyone here is very helpful with any issue that you may come across.
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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2007, 06:44:50 PM »
Thanks to all for the welcome.

Sorry Jay B, but my dad didn't know what kind of exhaust it is. All he knew is that he bought it off the internet for from some guy who said he only had a few left. He also said it was some sort of cheap universal fit system, but there wasn't a specific brand name.

Another thing to add about the bike: The guages were in gret condition when the bike was purchased, not faded or anything. Unfortunately time and weather have taken their toll and now the paint is cracked. This is something I would like to fix (in the distant future), but I don't like the idea of refacing them with some sticker and having them professionally repainted is way out of my price bracket.
1972 CB350F (Back from the Dead!)- http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=20822.0
1965? S65 - Coming Eventually!
1972 CB750K2 (father-son project)
1976 CB750K6- (sold) http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=96859.0
1976 CB750K6 (sold)- http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=62569.0

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2007, 09:17:03 PM »
Welcome, hoodellyhoo!  The bike looks to be a beaut.  I got my rectifier (for my '77 750) from Oregon Motorcycles, and I'm happy with it.  As far as the wiring goes, cleaning and lubing all the connector terminals will improve things very much -- the wires are likely to be in better shape than the connections.  Also, if you haven't cleaned the terminals on the fuse holders, do it now (emory cloth works well).  All sorts of problems, including fuse block meltdown, result from tarnished fuse terminals. 

You might consider a motorcycle safety course.  Many new and experienced members here highly recommend them, most of which are run by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation in the US.  I mention that because you'll want to sign up early to get a course for late Spring/early Summer.  Also, in many states, completion of the course counts as the road test for your license.

And good luck on your journey to becoming a teacher.  My brother just left a career of 15 years in software engineering to become a math teacher, and he's happy he did.
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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2007, 05:13:36 AM »
I recently aquired a Honda CB350F from my father for free and I am very thankful for that but my only problem with it is that it doesn't run. I started tearing into the bike about a year ago and then we had a baby so my plans for this have been in stand by mode.  Now that I have started working on the bike again I thought i would rewire the wiring harness. Let me tell you IT SUCKS, espically when the color coded wiring diagram that I have does not match exactly to the wires I have. If anybody can Help a Brother out Please do so in any way shape or form. I'll post some pics of the Wiring harness soon.

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2007, 05:09:39 PM »
This is the coolest  8) wiring diagram for the CB350F you will ever find.
http://oldmanhonda.com/MC/wiring350F.html
If you move your curser over things, they work! The engine starts, sounds good and the plugs fire. Even the horn toots. Its very impressive.

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2007, 05:42:53 PM »
I recently aquired a Honda CB350F from my father for free and I am very thankful for that but my only problem with it is that it doesn't run. I started tearing into the bike about a year ago and then we had a baby so my plans for this have been in stand by mode.  Now that I have started working on the bike again I thought i would rewire the wiring harness. Let me tell you IT SUCKS, espically when the color coded wiring diagram that I have does not match exactly to the wires I have. If anybody can Help a Brother out Please do so in any way shape or form. I'll post some pics of the Wiring harness soon.

In case you're interested, here's a link to the thread for my bike http://www.sohc4.us/forums/index.php?topic=20822.msg216300#msg216300
1972 CB350F (Back from the Dead!)- http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=20822.0
1965? S65 - Coming Eventually!
1972 CB750K2 (father-son project)
1976 CB750K6- (sold) http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=96859.0
1976 CB750K6 (sold)- http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=62569.0

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Re: 73 350F owner in sunny Wisconsin!!
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2007, 04:25:41 AM »
here is a picture of my wiring harness.  That oldmanhonda site is awesome but the colors of the wires are confusing