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Offline jakec

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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2019, 11:09:17 AM »
Ok I am happy to skip the clear coat on the forks. I was going to use 2k. This bike once finished should never see the rain anyways, unless I get caught in it.

As for the paint I have already purchased the appliance enamel. I am happy to do  primer but i had read previously that you don't need it with this particular paint, and there is someone in this thread saying the same thing.
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2019, 12:03:36 PM »
Has anyone had experience with curing the appliance epoxy in the over? I put my sprocket cover in the overn at 250* when i painted it with VHT duplicolor, to protect from gas. I'm wondering about curing some of the pieces, like the triple clamps, to harden the paint. When i torqued these parts before the paint flaked off. The directions do say not to use on parts exposed to heat. I was thinking of curing at lower heat like 100*. However I'm not even sure if my logic is correct, that curing paint would make it less like to flake off when the parts are torqued.
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2019, 01:20:41 PM »
 I've painted a few race car tube chassis, I used DuPont Imron pitch black in a spray gun. After it's painted I fill the cup with the remaining paint and some reducer and wet down the entire fame to melt in any overspray.  It looks like powder coat but easier to repair.
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2019, 01:37:16 PM »
I semi-polished an aluminum head cover, cleaned it carefully with paint prep, then painted it with duplicolor self-etching primer.  After the finish color went on I was so disappointed with the adhesion of the primer, I sandblasted the part and sprayed again without primer.  It looked good and held up well.
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2019, 05:29:53 PM »
I semi-polished an aluminum head cover, cleaned it carefully with paint prep, then painted it with duplicolor self-etching primer.  After the finish color went on I was so disappointed with the adhesion of the primer, I sandblasted the part and sprayed again without primer.  It looked good and held up well.
yup, I used the duplicolor self etching primer on my cylinder head, and to be fair it held up for 3 seasons/about 30,000 miles.  But last season it seemed to just kinda spectacularly fail all at once, and now it flakes off from the impact of a gnat and looks pretty bad.
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2019, 09:40:26 PM »
A good 2k over your painted frame and motor parts will make them fuel proof and much more durable. It is important to test compatibility and generally it is going to take longer than the paint label will indicate. Just have to give any layer plenty of time to harden and cure.
 Not doing so can cause issues of bubbling or wrinkling, etc.
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2019, 09:48:13 PM »
I just painted my first pieces, brake disc (want to send it off soon) and battery box. I can say the paint goes on really nice. Even on the disc which was mostly bare metal.



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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2019, 08:14:18 AM »
Quick update with advice needed on fork polishing:

Updated pic of the disc with the masking tape removed, right before sending to true disc.


And onto sanding the fork lowers. At first i forgot to lubricated and it was going terribly. Once I added wd-40 it was awesome. First pic is 600g next to my roommate's 400.


600g next to 800g. I think 800 is the highest I will go. Sanded at 2k rpm.


My question is, how to get rid of swirl marks from the orbital sander? Adjusting the speed down seemed to make them worse. Adjusting it up seemed to also make it worse...

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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2019, 10:37:27 PM »
I sanded vertically by hand with 1200g, which is what I had originally bought. Like you said there are still scratches however they are more subtle and least they are all vertical now. I don't want to go too high with the sandpaper because I don't want to get a mirror finish, ideally I would like to have them stay the color they are now just without scratches. What should I do? I can get more sandpaper as soon as it stops snowing here.
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2019, 11:45:23 AM »
Ok, research says that green scotchbrite is equivalent to 600g. So I would be making pretty  pronounced markings with it. I'm happy to give it a shot though! Do you suggest that I sand it wet as I've been doing?
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2019, 12:51:08 PM »
The rust oleum appliance epoxy is very good without primer...I think it sticks even better to bare steel than with a primer.  This is quite different from most any other paint so if you have never used it before, it goes against common painting knowledge that you need to use a primer.

If you do insist on priming, I suggest finding a black colored primer so that any chips or scratches might not be so obvious.

I ended up using Primer with my appliance epoxy. Worked out well for me.

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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2019, 09:48:41 AM »
I finally started painting last weekend as temps finally hit 70* out of nowhere after weeks of 40's.

Amazed how much paint it was taking to get coverage on the frame. Not to mention the overspray. I have not flipped it over to get the underside yet. Just two coats on top.

One question I have is regarding the long-term cure time. How long does it take to reach a full cure, like the original paint on the frame?

Another issue I'm dealing with is dust. I had to repaint a few pieces that got dusty while they dried. There is also a guy doing drywall work in the garage this week so I am delayed.
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2019, 07:38:42 PM »
Has anyone used KBS paint system before.  I tried it on a CB750 frame and it seemed pretty solid.  Just wondering if anyone else has used this product on their chassis.
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Re: Painting my frame
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2019, 10:04:14 PM »
Does anyone have experience baking the appliance epoxy to harden it? I am having this problem where the paint comes off when you torque bolts down. Paint hardened naturally for about 2 weeks.
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