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Gearhead stories.
« on: February 24, 2022, 11:05:44 AM »
 I'll start off with my best gearhead story.
   
  Hellzapoppin was a top fuel front engine dragster They ran a 392 hemi and towed the open trailer with a Chrysler Imperial because it had the spare motor under the hood. One year at the World Series of Drag Racing they were trying to compete but were a little slow. They had taken along a new bigger blower and decided they had to try it.
  During the install they were having trouble and couldn't figure out the rotor timing and end plates. My buddy heard someone ask what's the matter? He turned around and it was Don Garlits. He showed Don the problem and Don said, I can put that together for you and they let him.
  He did get it all together, but in the excitement the team forgot to turn the motor backwards to get the left-over nitro out of the cylinders. When they push started it the engine fired and blew the side out of the block, it was running but they could see the piston still going up and down through the hole. The driver thought it was OK and thought it could make the pass but they finally got him to shut it off.
  I don't think they had enough weekend left to take the 392 out of the tow vehicle. 

  I knew all of those guys. Alcohol may have been involved.
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2022, 03:13:55 PM »
I was at the US Nationals once and saw a guy running a dragster, maybe a super comp, definitely not a top fuel or alcohol but anyhow this guy had issues immediately with his engine spewing oil at around the 60 ft mark. I don't know whether he couldn't shut the engine off or wouldn't shut it off but it just sat there puking oil so one of the Safety Safari crew nabbed a halon fire extinguisher and gave it a blast in it's intake and that shut that engine down immediately. The driver of the car was not happy at all.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2022, 05:29:50 PM »
From 1979-1984 I raced in the Honda/Michelin Championship. The series was for sealed, stock Honda Civics. Base model, 1200 cc, 4 speed box. Honda provided a roll cage, 6 point harness, and a straight through tail pipe, for some excitement. We often started over 50 cars on a grid and racing was VERY CLOSE. Initially, we had an external kill switch on the RF fender.

One afternoon at Mosport, we were qualifying for a Can Am support race. We had two identical Team cars and were in a long train of cars drafting up the 4,000’ back straight. At one point I pulled out to the left and Terry (my team mate) came along, pushing me past the car in front. We ran very close along side, trying for even a sniff of a side draft. As we drew along side my good friend Richard P., his arm reached out under his window net and clicked OFF my kill switch!!!!

Bastard! Next time I’ll tell you what Terry and I did to him the next day…
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2022, 05:31:02 PM »
I'll never forget the day I heard a triumph trident seize up at Bonneville.
Felt really bad for the rider.  He put everything into that old motor and was on a return run.
Engine stuck hard about 3/4 mile into the run up.  It had to be loud when things screeched to a halt between his knees.

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2022, 04:51:38 PM »
  My daughter was racing one the other two females in our class, our car launched well but shut off going only about 50' she pulled over so I ran out to push it off track. Another racer came out to helped and said nice win Dad, I laughed and she said no you won, the other car broke out. That is considered a worse foul than not completing the run. Really.
  We changed a fuse and fixed a skinned wire and went a couple more rounds. That fall when I took the car apart, I noticed the fuel pump feed wire was also pinched under the bracket.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2022, 06:07:15 AM »
From 1979-1984 I raced in the Honda/Michelin Championship. The series was for sealed, stock Honda Civics. Base model, 1200 cc, 4 speed box. Honda provided a roll cage, 6 point harness, and a straight through tail pipe, for some excitement. We often started over 50 cars on a grid and racing was VERY CLOSE. Initially, we had an external kill switch on the RF fender.

One afternoon at Mosport, we were qualifying for a Can Am support race. We had two identical Team cars and were in a long train of cars drafting up the 4,000’ back straight. At one point I pulled out to the left and Terry (my team mate) came along, pushing me past the car in front. We ran very close along side, trying for even a sniff of a side draft. As we drew along side my good friend Richard P., his arm reached out under his window net and clicked OFF my kill switch!!!!

Bastard! Next time I’ll tell you what Terry and I did to him the next day…

Next morning, we loaded the rear windshield washer bags on both our cars with a mixture of chocolate milk/washer fluid, and rotated the nozzles so they pointed straight backwards. Sure enough, Dick ended up behind me, drafting up the back straight. Once he got right under me, bumper to bumper, I pulled up the lever and covered his windshield!
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2022, 10:44:57 PM »
 HA! That's classic.
 We got to the final in a Jr. Dragster race, our opponent was from a racing family and we weren't expected to win the final. From the starting like it looked close, the cars ran close to the same ET so there was only a tiny handicap at the start anyway, we got the win light. The margin of victory on the time slip was .000. The other Dad went to the tower to check and when he came back he said there were two more zeroes and a 3. so our MOV was .000003 of a second. The computer timer was out of digits but they said it would still pick a winner if it was all zeroes.
  I always wondered if the lane closer to the computer in the tower had an advantage at those numbers.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2022, 10:53:56 PM »
 #2.  Me and my street rod buddy were out tearing up the road in my 40 chevy one saturday. He had sold me a set of double hump 350hp heads and it needed a test drive. We went back to my house and I could see my neighbor across the street in his kitchen through the open front door.
  I stopped right where he could see us, revved it to 5K or so and sidestepped the clutch. It didn't move an inch, I exploded the 56 chevy rear end right there. We pushed it into the garage and started shopping for a 9" ford rear end. I got one out of a 57 Edsel. Haven't broken it yet, even with stock axles.
  I was pretty proud of that driveshaft, I had made it from Ford Grenada and a 65 chevy impala shafts one inside the other, rosette welded 18" back and welded at the end of the outer one.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2022, 09:58:55 PM »
I used to work with a cocky little guy named Glenn Moody. (Imagine the Lucky Charms leprechaun in a 3-piece suit and you will get a mental image of Glenn. ;)) He once told me a story about a race car he and his older brother had pieced together with an Anglia Gasser chassis and a blown 392 hemi. (This was after Garlits discovered how to make the 426 outperform the 392 by advancing the ignition timing past what would have destroyed a 392, trying to blow the 426 up. After that, 392s were relatively cheap in SoCal.)
Glenn and his brother tow the car to a street in San Bernadino that was a street racing hot spot back in the day. (BTW Don, Ron R, my next door neighbor and mentor came from San Berdoo before moving to Santa Maria) They unload the car from the trailer, push it to the street and fire it up, with Glenn driving. Right after the start of his first stop-light race, the cops show up, red lights blazing and siren blaring. Glenn said "I say to myself, you ain't gonna catch me, I got a blown 392!! Then it threw the blower belt... :( :(" He didn't even have a driver's license at the time, but gave the cops his brother's, and when the case went to court it was thrown out because the cops had the wrong brother charged.     
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2022, 11:05:38 PM »
  I just watched that video of Garlits explaining trying to blow up that 426 and it just kept going faster.
  Ivo and Schumacher spoke at the NHRA museum a few years ago on thursday or friday at Pomona. Ivo said having the acting money he had bought a big house in the hills and all of the racers would hang out and party for a week or so after the Winternationals. One year the doorbell rang and it was Big Daddy Don himself. He had taken some vacation time and Pat was home. Ivo warned him there were some drugs being consumed and big said it was OK he wondered what all the fuss was. Might be time to find out.
 Anyway, Garlits has an idetic (sp) memory, he can remember every race, what day it was on what ET he ran and who was in the other lane and every day for his entire life. Except for that week and the one after. Things are a little foggy.
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2022, 07:36:12 PM »
During a summer ride between Macomb, IL and [somewhere in] Missouri one fine summer day in 1972, our group got strung out over about 1/2 mile of road on the way home. I was near the rear on my SuperHawk, concerned about the 2 guys behind me [some distance back] on their dirt bikes, as they were maxed out at the 70 MPH we were running and had already heat-stopped once earlier in the day (2 Yammie 250s).

Riding on the white line, I jerk-wiggled around a metal object I saw laying right on it: it was a chain's master link(!). I thought that was weird. About half a minute later, entering a wide turn to the left, I wiggled off the white line again because a chain was laying stretched out on it, dead straight(!). Now I thought this was REALLy wierd. About 100 yards further into the turn I saw a leather-jacketed guy walking along the hiway with helmet in hand: it was the Trophy 500 rider who was ahead of me. I stopped to ask why he was walking, and he explained he was just tooling along and enjoying the day when his tach went redline and the bike slowed down: he parked and discovered his chain was gone!

So, while he walked to the place I pointed back to to pick up his chain, I rode back to find the master link, as the dirt bikers waved and buzzed by. The sideplate was about 100 feet further back from there. We never did find the clip.

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2022, 01:24:39 PM »
 I found a clip on the trailer after transporting a project bike. It threw a clip and wasn't even running. Obviously, I had not completed the installation of the 630 to 530 conversion.
 It spit the chain off while I was rolling it into the garage. Only damage was to my confidence.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2022, 03:44:36 PM »
A buddy's dad used to work for the state. All the other crews had been replacing their old trucks with brand new Fords. They were still stuck with an old Dodge with the slant 6. It was underpowered and didn't have a/c. The truck was rough, but still ran fine. After begging the supervisor for a new truck, the answer was something along the lines of "You guys are keeping this truck as long as it's still running". So the guys got together, drained the oil, and drove that truck around the yard. They ran the guts out of that thing till it overheated and stopped running. As soon as it cooled down, they'd fire it right back up and do it again. I guess this went on for quite a while. The ol leaning tower of power just refused to die. One of the guys finally got tired of it, so he hopped in the truck, stomped it, got some speed built up and then threw it up into "park". My buddy's dad said they never did find the driveshaft.  ;D
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2022, 04:01:53 PM »
 I went to a car show where a towing company did a fund raiser called the big 3 blow up. He always brought two cars made by the big three, he cut the belts and drained the water and oil, then set the rpm at 3,000 and timed the inevitable blow up. The money was made by selling time slots for whichever car you thought would last longest. The one that guessed the right car and closest to the time won the money prize.
  I asked the tow co. guy about it he said bet on the mopar and go over a half hour. Even after they die I can always cool them off and drive it back onto the trailer. That year a Toyota died first and a mopar ran 47 minutes. He thought a neglected engine ran longer when the sludge melted and lubricated the motor for a while.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2022, 06:22:08 PM »
In high school, one of my friends had a Dodge Dart with the slant 6 in it. He wasn't a real savvy sort of car owner, so I think that engine was just right for him: one day he was driving out of the city into the countryside with his girlfriend when the Dodge stopped running suddenly from 55 MPH, so they coasted to a stop on the side of the road. After 'parking' awhile they decided to go for a walk and then returned, and the car started: he drove it back home again (about 30 miles). The next day I happened by his house as he was changing his oil: when he pulled the plug only a small dribble happened for a few seconds, about 1/2 quart was it. (It did burn, and leak, oil quite a bit). He drove it another 3 years after that.

About a year later I was working at the bike shop in Pekin, IL when a guy brought in his CL77, complaining that it would only run about 30 minutes at a time and quit, plus he wanted an oil change. After it cooled off I pulled up a drain pan and pulled the plug and...drip, drip. That was it: there was maybe 1 ounce of oil inside. I put in the normal 2 quarts and cleaned the spinner filter, set the points and checked the valves (they were fine), and he rode off happy. I told him to check the oil once in a while. About 4 months later he came in for another oil change: that time it had full oil still inside, but he said he had added "some oil" since the last time he was in. Tough engine!
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2022, 05:06:32 AM »
I'm a Ford guy, but this kinda makes me want an old Dodge.

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2022, 09:20:29 AM »
  I was told by an experienced (old) machinist the old Mopars have a high tin and nickel content in the iron, the cylinders often show less wear and when you bore one, the tooling makes a different sound.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2022, 01:40:56 PM »
I went to a car show where a towing company did a fund raiser called the big 3 blow up. He always brought two cars made by the big three, he cut the belts and drained the water and oil, then set the rpm at 3,000 and timed the inevitable blow up. The money was made by selling time slots for whichever car you thought would last longest.
i went to a show with a similar event, but they only had one car and took bets on how long it would last. This time they had a 4 cylinder Ford Ranger. After about 30 minutes of it running full throttle with no oil someone brought out a nitrous bottle. They gassed the engine but it still refused to die. They shut it down after about 45 minutes.
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2022, 04:14:43 PM »
 You expect a big bang but they usually just slow down gradually and stop.
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2022, 04:22:16 PM »
 In the mid 70's we took a group with Honda's and Kawasaki's to Louisville to see the flat track races. Three guys from our town were racing. One guy showed some real talent but no patience. After a few laps in his feature race he was securely in the middle of the pack. Then it appeared he said F#$% this and dropped a gear. Within two laps he led the field by a half lap but with a couple more to go, his engine expired on the back straight.
 A couple years ago he bored out an 836 project for me, I told him about the trip and his fans, he asked how did I do? I related the story and he said yeah, that sounds like me.
  Like a lot of guys, he had the talent but weed and women got in his way.
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2022, 06:22:32 PM »
  Like a lot of guys, he had the talent but weed and women got in his way.

I knew too many like that, too! :(
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2022, 09:40:29 PM »
  I went to West Jersey Il today to get some tires dismounted. Charlies Cycle Supply. Charlie dismounted the tires off of my Lester mags and 3.5x18 did. Just a cool pic of the counter. I believe they are NOS with used chrome on them. 
 Charlie shared he's been sitting on a 750 RC stroker crank and Goldenrods. He wondered about a big bore cylinder. I referred him to CycleX.
 He rides a Valkyre with 315,000 miles on it, it could be passed off as 15,000. He had a cb185 and a 305 super hawk in for service. Late honda crotch rocket on one lift. Mostly works on quads these days.
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2022, 04:18:06 PM »
 I walked past a cb750 engine with the head and cylinder off and a stud ripped the leg of my favorite blue jeans. So I figure WTF, they're still my favorite jeans sew them up. I get out grandma's sewing kit and look in the Sucrets box for a needle. It's full of keys, the keys to my last house's garage doors that I never gave the new owner. A few master lock and undetermined keys but a very well worn Honda T key with no number on it.
  I'm sure it was from the K3 CB750 I sold after we moved here in 1984. I took it outside and tried it in my oldest bikes, no go but it looked just like the key in the K0 nugget bike. Sure enough, it fired it right up.
  The spirit of the K3 lives on. Except the Windjammer, rack, backrest, hooker header, hog rim and crash bars.
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2022, 07:13:28 PM »
This shot was taken at WaterfordHills, MI. Probably 20 years ago. Great Vintage event that a lot of Canadians attend. Bill Hirst (RIP) brought along his FORD powered Lola Mk.1 and we headed the field all weekend. This corner is called “Big Torque”, coming off the end of the back straight. It was a solid brake tap, but then 4th gear, flat, all the way around. Made for great photos, because my Lotus would lock the RF brake and hoist that wheel, turning in. Then carry it all the way around this long, fast corner, just slowly rotating in mid air. After the Sunday feature (which we won), there was a strange clatter in the LR on the cool off lap.....

Later that week, back in the workshop, I discovered  seven broken spokes in the LR wire wheel, slapping away at the bodywork. Good thing the race ended when it did. Look at the way that loaded wheel is rolling under the car. It was slowly checking out.......
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2022, 03:02:44 AM »
One of my friends in High School was lucky to have a 1965 Impala SS, 327/350 with a fourspeed Transmission.  It was a hot car for 18 YO boys to play with. All the "Greasers" hung out at the Avon Parking lot on Weekend evenings setting up races and showing off their wheels.

One Saturday some one loaned him a set of Mickey Thompson cheater slicks that we put on. We started doing laps around the block. first at 15psi, then 10, then 5psi...first time right in front of the group he took it up to about 2500, dumped the clutch.

We did not move much because the Drive shaft broke off at both universal joints, rolled to the curb in front of the people watching.

His dad left it sit in the driveway till he could pay for the repair himself.

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