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Offline ofreen

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What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« on: July 14, 2022, 12:06:11 PM »
Does the forum have one of these threads already?  I didn't find it in a search, but my search-fu is weak sometimes.  Someone can set me straight if there is one.

At any rate, here is my '93 R100GSPD airhead.  The front driveshaft u-joint froze up in one plane, so a replacement was in order.  Driveshaft failures were almost unheard of back when BMW driveshafts ran wet, but became common with the advent of the dry Paralever, especially in the GS with its steep swing arm geometry.  Anyone who runs CJ jeeps, and newer ones, especially if they are lifted, will be familiar with the issue with front u-joints.  This is the second drive shaft to go bad since I bought the bike new in September of 1993.  In their infinite wisdom, BMW did not provide a way to grease the Paralever driveshaft u-joints.  For a long time, they denied there was a problem, then finally came around and declared driveshafts were a wear item.  I have a rant about this, but I will spare everyone. ;D  Now that OEM driveshafts are $750+, I decided to try an Emerald Island greasable and rebuildable shaft.  There are people out there that rebuild the OEM shaft (which takes some welding, machining and other dinking around) , but these EI shafts seem to be successful.  As you can see in the photo, there are grease zerks.  A rebuild kit is available.  But I understand the rebuild kits are not big sellers, so the shafts must be holding up.  Keeping grease in any of these is the key.

The swingarm, the OEM shaft, and the EI shaft.



Since I am this far in with this degree of disassembly, a clutch spline lube is in order.  I've always done this regularly (every 2-3 years), so they are still like new.  You can see the splined shaft between the transmission and engine.  They can rust if allowed to go dry.  The splines are rather fine and will go away if neglected -



Airhead BMW's are great for those who like to get intimate with their motorcycle doing routine maintenance, which a spline lube is.  There is nothing comparable on a SOHC4.  In comparison, there is virtually no maintenance disassembly on my 750.  But it is all fun, and the bike has taken me to some interesting places (and back) so I don't begrudge it a little time. 





Valve clearance check and front end service is next, then a trip into the Oregon Cascades is planned.



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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2022, 04:07:22 PM »
I seem to remember my 75 GL 1000 needed the rear end splines looked after or they would get messed up.
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2022, 06:51:27 PM »
CX500/GL500/CX650/GL650 are also bikes requiring spline and ring gear maintenance least you face expensive replacement bills. The shaft maintenance is infrequent when compared to the frequency you should be cleaning and greasing your chain. So it is a poison of one type or another...
Speaking of, time to clean and grease the chain and change the oil and filter on the VStrom...
I live in a very dusty area so, if I don't maintain my chain I will be changing it as often 9r more often than tires...
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2022, 12:01:43 AM »
The normal failing with the bmw dry shaft is the rubber shock absorber that joins the two pieces of the shaft . Have seen a few of these fail . Is the new shaft improved in this respect?

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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2022, 06:13:39 AM »
The normal failing with the bmw dry shaft is the rubber shock absorber that joins the two pieces of the shaft . Have seen a few of these fail . Is the new shaft improved in this respect?

Yes, the OEM shaft will twist out of phase at the damper.  Both my old shafts show some movement.  The Emerald Island shaft is user serviceable at the damper.  It comes new with extra dampers, so it will be interesting to see how it holds up.
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2022, 01:46:37 PM »
Finally finished splicing, soldering, and heat shrinking to fix all of the friggin mouse damage on the wire harness for my S65.

Pro tip: don’t do it this way. Just buy a used one in better shape off eBay.

Trying to get this bike back on the road before a show in August.


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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2022, 02:04:04 PM »
Good thread  8)
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2022, 03:27:02 AM »
Finished cleaning up the "forkgasm" on my FJR, what a mess. It took longer to clean up the aftermath than it did to do the new fork seals!
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2022, 04:56:24 AM »
Got photos of the bronze exhaust inserts a motorcycle engineer in South Australia installed in my Morini 3 1/2 Sport cylinder heads. Should get them back Friday.



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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2022, 07:19:04 AM »
Those are purty.
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2022, 09:52:31 AM »
Trevor,they did nice work  8)
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2022, 10:16:11 AM »
Trevor, one sold on BaT recently...thought about your thread then forgot to post about it...
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2022, 07:14:16 PM »
Trevor
Can you elaborate on why you need them? Old ones not good?
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2022, 11:09:56 PM »
The original exhaust ports have threads cut into the aluminum of the cylinder head, and the exhaust nuts wind into these. After 40+ years & 1000's of heat cycles, the aluminum becomes soft, and the threads inevitably strip. This is also (apparently) a common problem with Norton Commandos. So, the only solution is to have a very gifted engineer mill out the port, cut in a new thread, make an insert with an inner and outer thread, then fix this in place. The guy I used has been referred to on Norton internet forums as "a genius" and "a wizard". It cost me $1,155 (AUD) to have the two heads done, but these will never strip. Given a Morini 3 1/2 Sport goes for around $15,000 (AUD), the price to get the bike running seems reasonable to me!
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2022, 11:07:25 AM »

Months ago I accidentally bought +.050 piston rings for my S65. Yesterday the correct ones for standard bore came in the mail so I finished assembling the engine. I was also able to verify I had spark, which was encouraging.


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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2022, 02:28:58 PM »
So cool, I’d love to find one to fix.
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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2022, 10:36:13 AM »
I rode it!
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2022, 10:59:58 AM »
I need (another) life ?

How did it work? any pics ?
Very good video.  8)
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2022, 03:12:57 PM »
Using finger drive, it works, oil is fed as planned, working on shaft supply, pressure relief valve & a primary gear squirter,
 It's a modified version of the supplementary pump I used to feed the piston cooling squirters in the supercharged 250/4
   Theres still a LOT of work to be done, but the planets are lining up nicely.
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2022, 06:19:56 AM »
Yesterday I completed almost all of the assembly of my Morini 3 1/2 Sport. It's ready to fire up (just needs some fuel). When turning the motor over by hand using the rotor, I decided the brand new replacement cambelt is too loose. The camshaft pulleys are marked "A", "B" or "C". Mine is an "A", which means it's early in the production run. This means it's ever-so-slightly smaller than a "B" or a "C". It seems the Italians didn't retool their milling machines very often, and as the tools got less sharp they just measured and marked the pulleys accordingly! Most unmarked belts are a "B", but I reckon I've got a "C". So, I've ordered the "correct" "A" cambelt...

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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2022, 08:41:12 AM »
Yesterday I cleaned the 77' KZ 1000 LTD motor for the 3rd time. One or two more times should do it, the crud on the front of the motor is baked on. 8)
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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2022, 11:14:18 PM »
Time for a new rear tyre for my Kawasaki H1A. I put a Michelin M48 on it immediately before the motor sh*t itself, then it sat in a dark corner with a cover on for 10 years. The tyre is now worn out, and has a little bit of cracking on the sidewall. Of course, it's not a straightforward job, and two exhaust pipes have to be removed...  I'll head down to the tyre place in Ringwood (Victoria, Australia) next week.



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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2022, 04:28:51 AM »
I went with a 110/90 Dunlop K81/TT100 for the H1A.



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Re: What did you do to your non-SOHC4 motorcycle today?
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2022, 07:35:03 AM »
I went with a 110/90 Dunlop K81/TT100 for the H1A.


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