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Offline mvent

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350 Four Upper Brake Line
« on: December 14, 2022, 06:47:05 PM »
Looking to purchase brake line set for 73 CB350 Four. Original handlebars, top line measures 13.5" tip of banjo to tip of banjo. 4into1 list top line is 15.5oa but also has top hose for 75-76 400F at 13.5oa. Anyone know if their measurements are accurate?
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2022, 05:19:17 PM »
Looking to purchase brake line set for 73 CB350 Four. Original handlebars, top line measures 13.5" tip of banjo to tip of banjo. 4into1 list top line is 15.5oa but also has top hose for 75-76 400F at 13.5oa. Anyone know if their measurements are accurate?
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2022, 03:49:20 PM »
It seems by measurement what I need is top line for 75-76 400F. 4into1 list this as 13.5" which is exactly what my original hose measures with stock 350 Four bars.
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2022, 02:36:28 AM »
Unless your the original owner of this bike the bars could have been changed, as the CB400F has a lower bar set than the CB350F from the factory IIR. There is a couple of inches difference in the rise.
Check with 4into1 by email and they will measure the brake line, yet my experience with them is what they list is what you get length wise in my past purchases.
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2022, 09:47:47 AM »
Unless your the original owner of this bike the bars could have been changed, as the CB400F has a lower bar set than the CB350F from the factory IIR. There is a couple of inches difference in the rise.
Check with 4into1 by email and they will measure the brake line, yet my experience with them is what they list is what you get length wise in my past purchases.

Bought from a friend who was original owner, bars never changed. Bike was completely original with exception of exhaust which was replaced with Honda 400F 4 into 1.
Thanks I will email them.
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2022, 02:10:00 PM »
I have the 4into1 brake line set for a stock 400F on the shelf. The top line is about 13.5 WITHOUT the banjos. With he Banjos screwed into each end it's about 15".
PS: For a stock 75-76 400F I personally think the kit's top line is to long. But, for 1977 Honda put higher bars. So it might be good for that year.

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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2022, 04:00:25 PM »
 Be sure you are talking end to end or center to center.
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2022, 07:26:31 AM »
Apex is another option for ordering brake lines...

http://www.apexbrakes.com/custom.asp
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2022, 08:12:58 AM »
Is there a convention as to measuring brake lines? I would think center to center would be the most accurate.
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2022, 09:45:52 AM »
I'm thinking of laying my existing lines out on a board take a picture with dimensions and send to Apex. I assume they will know what the correct fitting is going into the hard line.
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2022, 10:20:37 AM »
I'm thinking of laying my existing lines out on a board take a picture with dimensions and send to Apex.

I have done that...
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2022, 11:37:17 AM »
Either ctr to ctr or end to end it almost the same measurement. If you considder that the distance from the center of the banjo to the outer end is only about 1/2cm.

Anyway I'm finding that the length needed from m/c on a stock 75 or 76 CB400F handlebar to three-way connector underneath the headlight is only about 24cm or 10 inches.

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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2022, 02:56:54 PM »
Either ctr to ctr or end to end it almost the same measurement. If you considder that the distance from the center of the banjo to the outer end is only about 1/2cm.

Anyway I'm finding that the length needed from m/c on a stock 75 or 76 CB400F handlebar to three-way connector underneath the headlight is only about 24cm or 10 inches.

Thank you this makes sense considering the difference in handlebar rise between the 2 and validates the discrepancy on 4into1's stated  dimensions. Their return email to me was the lengths are as stated and match original to bike.
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2022, 03:05:25 PM »
One more thing, what is the lower hose connection that screws into the hard pipe ?
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Re: 350 Four Upper Brake Line
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2023, 02:12:13 PM »
FWIW received brake line kit from 4into1, I ordered kit for 75-76 400F and top line fits perfect on my stock handlebar 350 Four.
1973 350F
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