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Offline Djs01

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Bought this beautiful 1972 CB750k02 that would not hit 4-5th gear, no issue re-did clutch and thought I did everything correctly but now I have false neutral no matter what. I also messed with the shift drum on the left side and the pins dropped so I have no clue which order they're supposed to go into. Motor is fully rebuilt with carb sync done by a shop with less than 20mi on it.

Any help would be helpful, I’ve tried readjusting the clutch messing with the shift drum… everything short of pulling the basket again.

Would love to get this beauty on the road asap🙏🏼

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It sounds like you might have the clutch pressure plate 'out of sync' with the outer clutch hub: they must drop together into their splines, but it is possible to assemble it with them standing on each other instead. It is easy to do this. It means you must go back in and remove the 4 little bolts again, EVENLY, because if this is the case, then the pressure plate is under great stress and can crack or break.

When you look at the clutch (with the engine's clutch cover removed) all the plates must be flush, flat against each other. This is the normal and correct appearance. If there is any space between them, the clutch was mis-assembled, and full-time Neutral is the result.

Also: the nut in the center of the clutch hub MUST go on with the curved side of the nut toward the curved washer, and that curved washer MUST be installed with the curved-out side toward you (hollow side toward the engine). If installed backward it can overload the threads on the mainshaft when tightening, and damage that shaft.

Another question: did someone else work on this engine before you got it? (And why did the clutch need to be changed? They last 80k+ miles or more.) Not having 4th or 5th gear is quite rare, and can result from having incorrect shim spacers on the far side of the mainshaft (from the clutch side), or from a damaged "R" shifter fork. If the cases were split and then mis-assembled it will have gears 1-N-2 and usually not 3 (and also no 4-5) when the "C" fork is not laid into the mainshaft's gear grooves at reassembly. Fixing this issue involves pulling the engine out to split the cases and put it back together correctly: I've seen these bikes for sale for $150 after someone did that to themselves and got mad, then just sold it(!).
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Bought this beautiful 1972 CB750k02 that would not hit 4-5th gear, no issue re-did clutch and thought I did everything correctly but now I have false neutral no matter what. I also messed with the shift drum on the left side and the pins dropped so I have no clue which order they're supposed to go into. Motor is fully rebuilt with carb sync done by a shop with less than 20mi on it.

Any help would be helpful, I’ve tried readjusting the clutch messing with the shift drum… everything short of pulling the basket again.

Would love to get this beauty on the road asap🙏🏼

Welcome aboard the forum Djs01
You have come to the right place to get information and help. Did you hit the "notify" button at the bottom of the replies so you get an email when someone replies? It doesn't automatically happen unless you do hit the notify button on this forum for each thread you want to follow.

You'll need to add to your information given and reply to Mark's reply(Hondaman)

A few questions I have for you.....
1. Your title says you now "have false neutral ", is it all the time?
2. Is it while running the motor and you can't move the bike?
3. Were you able to ride the bike when you 1st got it?
4. Did you have that shop do the work on it after you bought the bike?
5. What are your mechanical abilities,  have you worked on these motors before?
6. Do you have the Honda shop manual?
7. As Mark mentioned above, did you put the doomed washer in correctly when you had the clutch out?
« Last Edit: July 09, 2023, 10:51:45 PM by newday777 »
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A