Author Topic: From Rundown & Ragged.. To A Mean, Clean & Shiny Machine - My 1977 Honda CB750 K  (Read 7560 times)

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I got it for general rebuild and found all the damage, and the new owner wanted it all kept "numbers correct" for his Concours-style resto, so dug/ground/drilled out all the JB Weld and had the holes welded closed, then had the chain hole welded shut, then had the surface of the lower case welded up/milled back (3 times each) until the case would close again, and seal.
There is no possiblity that the location of the crack in his pictures could EVER cause enough distortion to make the cases not close. I'm not sure what situation you had, but the repairs must have been significant (I'm thinking the dreaded case crack from a broken drive chain) to need to re-machine the mating surfaces. And a competent machinist would have welded above the mating surface then either milled or fly-cut the repaired area flush to the mating surface. Job done. 3 times? What the Ef?

There is so much internet mythology to the "welding distortion" with aluminum that unless you weld, you should refrain from advising people (not directed at you, Mark, anyone in general that opoines). Aluminum is a major heat sink. It takes an incredible amount of heat to staturate these cases that TIG welding up a crack will never produce sufficient damage.

My original counsel to jig it up was due to misunderstanding where the crack was from his picture. Where these pictures show, its no big deal. A 30 minute repair, both sides. It would take longer to pack and drop off at the shipper than to repair it.

Yeah, the back-and-forth trips for repairing those precious cases were due to not knowing 'how high' to weld them, and the sagging that occurred in the web area in front of the sprocket. The lower portion of the area below the break-in was also dented somewhat, which complicated things: the 1st pass was to build up the whole area about 3/4" thick, then reshape (with a coarse hand file) it on the inside-the-cases side so that a wall could be built at all. That was the 1st effort, and it cleared the countershaft gears' teeth tips by 1mm less than a 'normal' case, but that was the best we could do and get a seal, because there are only 2 bolts in that area in these early ones, not 3. Then we built that whole section up until it was above the case parting line and I had it milled back down (flycut) to match the rest of the case. There were several tiny airholes where impurities in the case material near the welding areas were still contaminated with oil debris, so in the last pass those were all welded up proud again (8 of them, IIRC) and re-flycut to match the rest of the case. Tedious, but it worked!
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And here we are. At the end of this exhaustive journey. The final end result of over 2.5 years of blood, sweat and tears. Literally. However I wouldn't change a thing. I learned SO SO SO much and that in itself was worth all the headaches. I met alot of good people along the way, in person and over the internet, mostly from this forum.


I want to take this time to give an enormous and very special thank you to Mark (Hondaman), Cal, BertJan at Outsiders Motorcycles for his outstanding product and professionalism, and Frank (Rest in Peace). There are so many more of you on this forum that have gave me amazing and helpful advice over the last few years and I will forever be thankful. Without this forum, it's threads and the people therein, I would NOT have been able to fulfill this goal and dream in the way that I have. Attaining this dream of mine is one of the top 3 greatest moments of my life. I've wanted it for so long. Some of you may think I sound silly or stupid because it's just a bike, but it's far more than that to me. My old man who went with me to get the bike back in 2009 passed away from lung cancer and he made me promise him that I would build this bike into the coolest, most badass cafe racer ever. And in my heart and mind, I've done just that.

Thank you everyone!










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Lastly, I want to say that the only thing I have left to do on this build is fabricate the rear cowl that'll sit directly behind the seat backing. Once I get that completed and back from paint, I'll throw it on and post some updated pics, but other than that she is good to go, and I could not be happier with the end result. I did it. I built a bike.

Wow, I gotta say you did a great job on this. Seriously impressed with your fab skills too. I'm just starting a resto on a (very tired) CB750K7 similar to yours. Well done! Bill
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This bike has been re-nominated for Bike of the Month but needs a "second" nomination posted in the following thread:  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180400.0.html
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What an amazing journey.

And especially exciting for me because I have a SumpThing and had heard a rumor that you can get the DOHC headers to work with the SOHC + SumpThing. Which you confirmed! Can you tell me how you modified the headers to get them to fit?
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