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Offline ekim98

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Re: pods v standard air box.
« Reply #300 on: September 21, 2008, 08:07:33 am »
I guess I'm just lucky. I put EMGO pods on my 78 750k with a cheap mac 4 into 1 and it ran just fine with some 120 main jets. Didn't quite match the 1/4 mile speed and times as tested new but that was more me than the bike. No problem with idle or throttle response. But then again I wasn't looking for more performance just a look so I came out good on both sides of the debate and I saved some weight too. 
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Re: pods v standard air box.
« Reply #301 on: September 21, 2008, 08:19:38 am »
...I leaned out the airscrews to help cure the miss, didnt seem to help much...

...Has anyone had to lean out slow jets from running pods?

The slow jets and air screw do not effect anything past 1/8 throttle.

On my '81 650 custom with '79 engine with EMGO pods and stock exhaust I have at this point:
110 main jets, 47 slow jets, slow screw @ 1 turn, PD50B slide, PD50A needle.  Starts right up with choke, warms up in 5 minutes.  Have yet to take it for a ride.
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Emgo Pods oil or no?
« Reply #302 on: September 28, 2008, 09:32:19 am »
I have used Emgo pods on a bunch of bikes and it occured to me today that they may need oil like the K$N pods.  Of course, these are economy pods and instructions would cost extra.  Will oil resistance to air flow affect my jetting?

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Re: Emgo Pods oil or no?
« Reply #303 on: September 28, 2008, 10:34:06 am »
I have used Emgo pods on a bunch of bikes and it occured to me today that they may need oil like the K$N pods.  Of course, these are economy pods and instructions would cost extra.  Will oil resistance to air flow affect my jetting?
my guess would be yes, they need to be oiled(i always have), and the slight amount of resistance from the oil should not cause a problem, i never noticed any difference from oiling. i had a zx7 with k&n pods on it and when i cleaned them the bike would have a slight flat spot until they got a little dirty and then the flat spot would go away, sometimes a little resistance is a good thing.
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Re: Emgo Pods oil or no?
« Reply #304 on: September 28, 2008, 10:43:42 am »
I spray mine.

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Re: Emgo Pods oil or no?
« Reply #305 on: September 28, 2008, 11:02:32 am »
Anyone get the feeling there may be a difference between Emgo & K&N quality wise?

 I would totally trust K&N, but reading about the endless problems with pods on this forum, I would be a bit leery of the lower priced ones.
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Re: Emgo Pods oil or no?
« Reply #306 on: September 28, 2008, 12:33:19 pm »
No question K&N are better built. But I have had the Emgos running fine on mine for years. It works, not changing the program now ;D

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Re: Emgo Pods oil or no?
« Reply #307 on: September 28, 2008, 01:08:47 pm »
i always used the k+n chemicals on my emgo pods when i still ran pods

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Pods on a 1977 CB750
« Reply #308 on: October 06, 2008, 09:07:15 am »
I thought I would post my settings since there are a lot of questions about pods and jetting. After working through the jetting over the weekend here is what is working beautifully on my bike (1977 CB750K, emgo pods, 4-1 Mac exhaust):

Carb settings:

#130 Main jet
2nd richest needle setting (one notch below the middle)
Floats set at 14.5mm (factory spec)
Air Screw - 1.5 turns out, then about another 1/8" of a turn


I love how smooth these 4 cylinders are.



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Re: Pods on a 1977 CB750
« Reply #309 on: October 06, 2008, 09:56:07 am »
Thanks for sharing

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Re: Pods on a 1977 CB750
« Reply #310 on: October 06, 2008, 09:58:56 am »
I've rec'd lots of help from various forums, this one included. I just want to do my part whenever I can. Hopefully, someone somewhere will find this useful.
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What CRC2 has to say regarding pods.
« Reply #311 on: October 13, 2008, 11:45:47 am »
"Re-cleanable pod filters can add performance and make carb removal much easier. Re-jetting is required for most applications. Twins and 550 and smaller Honda fours usually do not typically need jetting."

Thinking this may cause confusion for people not in the know. I read this prior to buying my pods and frequenting the forums, but I know better now... Strange that they would say the smaller fours don't usually require re-jetting especially for the already lean burning years.
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Re: What CRC2 has to say regarding pods.
« Reply #312 on: October 13, 2008, 05:31:18 pm »
I'll bet whoever believes that has a full set of encyclopedias  ;D

Maybe even a spare bridge in Brooklyn  ;)
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Re: What CRC2 has to say regarding pods.
« Reply #313 on: October 14, 2008, 09:43:11 am »
the 550 and smaller fours and the twins were mostly gone by the time that the OEM's had to go to extremely lean jetting for emmissions (early 80's), so they might be partly right.
The initial change to CV carbs where when things got screwed up.  Took them a few years to sort that stuff out.  Had a '81 CB650SC that was a biatch to get running correctly.

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To make my pods fit
« Reply #314 on: October 31, 2008, 11:45:26 am »
so i got my pods in an i was pumped an then realized they would never fit. i got cheap ones off ebay and they are prety big so my idea is this. cut along the read line with the dremel. ten cut the peice out thats in the cap and re glue the cap on further down to make them shorter. ... think it will work or will i have to get new pods?
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #315 on: October 31, 2008, 11:49:31 am »
What are you trying to fit them to? I've seen the same ones fit to a cb750, a 550, and a 350.
550 was kinda tight, the pods hit part of the frame, but they still got em to fit.
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #316 on: October 31, 2008, 11:56:48 am »
75 550f -well the pods in the pic arent the ones that im using. on #1 an 2 the pod actualy reachs the back of the frame rail thats in the way. i could smash them in ther maybe... but it will look like crap wont it. il take some pics tonight to show you
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #317 on: October 31, 2008, 12:02:16 pm »
75 550f -well the pods in the pic arent the ones that im using. on #1 an 2 the pod actualy reachs the back of the frame rail thats in the way. i could smash them in ther maybe... but it will look like crap wont it. il take some pics tonight to show you

Go ahead and smash em in, nobody will notice it unless they look really hard. They are under the seat and tank.
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #318 on: October 31, 2008, 12:12:00 pm »
BOOOO i bought them cuz they look cool haha
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #319 on: October 31, 2008, 12:16:32 pm »
isnt there a thread here that says the 35mm ones will fit the 550 w/o smashing?

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here it is

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=24352.0

just read the post by dustyc
« Last Edit: October 31, 2008, 12:22:36 pm by texaninseattle »
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #320 on: October 31, 2008, 12:21:14 pm »
There is a thread around here that I started addressing this issue

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=29437.0

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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #321 on: October 31, 2008, 12:23:06 pm »
Damnit Hope, you beat me to it... :D
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #322 on: October 31, 2008, 12:43:26 pm »
i actualy saw those threads before. I searched a whole lot after i had allready bought the wrong ones on ebay. i know i can get the smaller ones but i allready own these ones... that why im thinkin about cutting them. i think i can get it done and make it look nice, im pretty crafty with a dremel...
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #323 on: October 31, 2008, 01:07:50 pm »
do you think if i trimmed the out side two(1&4) and left the two inside(2&3) it would have enough of an effect on airflow to mess it up?
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Re: To make my pods fit
« Reply #324 on: October 31, 2008, 01:25:45 pm »
My little brother actually did the cut, and glue the caps back on mod, after finding the pods too long. It does work. I would recommend performing the mod on all four, so that the airflow is the same across all four carbs.
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