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Offline Big Bob

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1970's racing
« on: September 09, 2007, 06:16:57 am »
I've heard stories of guys in the 70's that would ride their bikes to the track, pull off the glass, slap on some number plates, race, put it back together and ride home.  The same bike they rode to work was the bike they raced on the weekends.

Can any of our old-timers confirm this?  More importantly, can anyone point me to some online articles or pictures showing this sort of stuff?  Doesn't necessarily have to be SOHC, any sort of street bikes doing some racing will fit the bill.

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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2007, 07:42:34 am »
I can confirm that practice at the local dragstrip.  Back in highschool we would ride/drive whatever out to Old Dominion Speedway, about 30-40 minutes away, race the evening away, and if you didn't break something, ride/drive home.

A buddy of mine had a Sportster.  He would go through this ritual every week.  Race Friday and/or Saturday.  Spend Sunday taking the bike apart.  He would send out some piece he wanted modified, or order the latest hop up, and reassemble by Thursday.  He would ride it to school Friday and then out to the track.  This went on until my senior year, when Honda came out with the first Gold Wing.  He rode one and the dealer made a deal with him.  They wanted him to do his best to hurt it on the dragstrip.  If it broke they would fix it for the first year(the warrantee doesn't cover racing).  I don't believe they had to make good on that promise, and it wasn't because he didn't try.  He did a couple of mods, but never broke anything.  He ended up selling bikes for that dealer, and so did I a few years later.
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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2007, 12:53:50 pm »
I don't know about any articles, but I can confirm it was a plenty common practice.  I think we've even had some pics on here in the past...
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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2007, 01:03:19 pm »
I did it on 3 occasions. I rode a 250 Susuki 175 miles, dragged it then rode it home.
Another time I broke down after traveling just 7 miles.
It was allways in the back of your mind, what if I brake down hundreds of miles from home.

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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2007, 01:41:07 pm »
I don't know about bikes, but I have worked as a crew chief on a SPEC Miata team and the owner of the team is an old racer from California.  He told me that when the SCCA Showroom Stock class became popular for the Dodge Neons that guys used to RENT  :o [That's right RENT!] Neons from the local Avis, Enterprize, etc... and use a bolt in roll cage and race the rental cars on the weekends and then return them to the rental company.

That practice aside...  I race my turbo Miata in SCCA Solo II SM2 class and I drive it to work regularly.  No big deal really. 

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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2007, 03:16:03 pm »
Yes, that's the way it used to be - my CB was my only form of transport back in 72-74, and it was used every day - to work, and weekend boy racing on the streets and in the hills, and race meetings whenever I could (including drag meets). Used to ride it to the track, take off the glass bits, wire up the stands, put on the numbers and hit the track - reverse procedure for the trip home. Were fun days.
Most of the bikes in the start line pic (1973 or 74) would have been ridden to the track - that's me #72 (a lot skinnier than now!). The big pic is a bit grainy - an old photo scanned.
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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2007, 03:45:07 pm »
Old timer... holy crap do I fit in that category?

When I lived in Vancouver, B.C, Westwood was the local roadrace track (an hour away and in the sticks) and I rode there just about every Wednesday night to practise. I only had limited sponsorship from the shop where I worked and only had use of the old beat up pick-up truck for race weekends. Wednesday was bike guys night, no ambulance, no corner marshalls just on our own most of the time. I raced production class so just removed the lights, etc. and put in as many laps as possible, reinstall all the goodies and rode home. I had picked up an RD 350 for my wife with the understanding she would ride it during the week and I'd go through the tuning ritual Friday night, then flog it on weekends. Shoe-string all the way. I had just moved west, was broke and my 73 CB750 had an 810 kit with a lot of hard racing miles from back east and was my onlt transportation so I concentrated on having fun on the RD. Club racing stuff but on race weekends there would be guys from everywhere. Steve Baker was world GP champ that year, and lived in nearby Bellingham. He & tuner Bob Work were at Westwood often. Steve was from Bellingham good times for sure.

Cut to this past weekend. I rode to spectate only at the Canadian Superbike final at Shannonville, Ontario and toured the pits. Gone are the days of travelling from track to track in some old beatup van, sleeping on the ground in a tent and making do with what you could afford.  It is remarkable the money even amateur racers spend on new trucks pulling huge trailers with all the finest.

 It's great to see, but I suppose it doesn't mean that they are having any more fun than the rest of us did "back a ways"  

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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2007, 04:20:59 pm »
Great photo Peter! I love the line up of the CB750s and then the CB550 towards the end...very cool! What bars did you have on the bike then? I see the rest are more or less stock apart from yours.

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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2007, 05:14:28 pm »
I did it on 3 occasions. I rode a 250 Susuki 175 miles, dragged it then rode it home.
Another time I broke down after traveling just 7 miles.
It was allways in the back of your mind, what if I brake down hundreds of miles from home.

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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2007, 05:25:24 pm »
This is not so uncommon in Britain, Mike.....my first "long distance ride" was on a 2-stroke - an MZ-125cc. Rode up to the Scottish Highlands...round trip over 2 days - 300 miles. I then used the same bike a motorcycle courier one summer averaging 150 miles/day riding around Glasgow.

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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2007, 05:32:02 pm »
Thanks Andy for joining the nutty club  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I don't feel as lonely now. :D :D :D

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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2007, 05:37:42 pm »
Well I think the highlight for me was the ride from Glasgow to Oxford for my PhD interview...set out from Glasgow at midnight and rode a CB350(SG) down the M6 - only took 7 hours (350miles) but the vibrations from the bars gave me shooting nerves for an hour or so afterwards. Was wearing full leathers as well and it was hot in Oxford upon arrival (it was July). The dons at the college had a good laugh at lunch. Something about vibrations making one go infertile! Yeah whatever.....the ride back was the same day at 5pm....ah good times....was back in Glasgow 24hours after Id left.

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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2007, 05:41:46 pm »
My hat's off to you Andy. That's some serious mileage on a CB350. Had one as my first bike and got the buzzbees well before 350 miles. ;)
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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2007, 06:31:33 pm »
Thanks all for your responses.  Keep 'em coming.  If anyone has pics from the era I'd appreciate it if you could email them to me at bigbob (at) ameritech (dot) net.

Thanks again!


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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2007, 07:24:56 pm »
Great photo Peter! I love the line up of the CB750s and then the CB550 towards the end...very cool! What bars did you have on the bike then? I see the rest are more or less stock apart from yours.

cheers
Andy



Hey Andy - and note 500/4 in front, the 350/4's in the back row too. There's a 900 Kwak on the front row you can just see - it was the first on the scene back in those days, and as you would expect, uncatchable down the straight, but caught him thru the twisties  ;D! Also a solitary RD350 there too.
I had what was commonly known as "flat bars" on mine for a while - they were wide and low, and proved quite good for road racing. Also tried what were called "ace bars", bit too kow for the street IMO. In those days you used "what you could afford", although I had a little bit of sponsorship which helped - particularly when the bike needed repairs after highsiding into the concrete wall in the far background - ouch.
You can see the bars better in this pic.
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Re: 1970's racing
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2007, 02:00:46 am »




Wow Peter, what a great photo! Thanks for posting that...it's really cool to see so many CBs lined up in a row. You should send it out to the MC magazines just so they know it's there the next time they do a write-up on the CB750. ;)
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