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Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« on: November 19, 2007, 06:47:05 PM »
    So I'm commuting home this evening and I come up behind a car that's blacked out in the rear(no running or brake lights). It's dark and the freeway is not well lit so I follow the vehicle for a mile to the choke point, where everyone slows to a crawl, with the intention of letting the driver know before the police do or they get rear ended.

    I pull in the adjacent lane next to the driver and slow down, but the driver slows down even more and will not come alongside even though there is plenty of empty road ahead. While I'm in the process of trying to wave them forward, the traffic in front of ME comes to a complete stop and I notice just in time to grab my brakes, veer a bit and put my feet down(I'm sure I looked like a complete moron at this point :D ).

    The driver finally pulls alongside and it is a 17 year old girl with one hand on the wheel and the other holding a cell phone. I'm motioning for her to roll her window down and pointing towards the rear of her car and she is looking at me vacantly while jabbering away on her cell. Cars behind us are honking so I yell at her closed window "your lights are completely out in the rear", to which she kind of nods her head a bit and goes back to her conversation. I really don't think she heard or had a clue of what I was trying to communicate to her and I truly believe that whatever conversation she was having on that phone was the most important thing going on in her world at the moment.

    Now if anyone is thinking that she might have been frightened by me pulling alongside and was leery of rolling the window down, let me just say that she was happily jabbering on the phone the way teenage girls do, was smiling and carrying on and barely seemed to notice my presence.

     I try and be a good samaritan by stopping if I think I can help, or calling attention to serious hazards(like the guy whose lugnuts were coming loose), but this just left me feeling stupid. Not only did I not pay close attention to my own safety while trying to help, but the person (and those behind us) really didn't care. Was I helping the person who "might" rear end them? I don't know. All I know is that I got home and am still thinking "#$%*'em all. Let them figure their own #$%* out. From here on out they can do it without me"   

 What would you do?

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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2007, 06:58:53 PM »
Don't lose the faith bro. Gotta keep tellin yourself they aint all bad.
It'll come back to ya eventually, prob. sooner than you'd think. 8)

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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 07:22:36 PM »
I would not lose faith in mankind over one airhead. We need all the good Karma we can get.
 
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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2007, 07:27:18 PM »
You gave it your best try.  That's all you can do.  Some will appreciate it, some won't get it at all.  I'll always give it my best try and I've been left with the same feeling.

I put gas in my tank the other day and paid with a 10 for $7.53 worth of gas.  The lady behind the counter was on the phone during the transaction and gave me back $7.53 change.  I told her of her mistake, but she said(between sentences to the person on the phone) that she gave me the right change.  I tried to tell her again, but she gave me a look so I shrugged my shoulders and walked away. 

Still I have to try.  And I'm sure I've been oblivious at points too.
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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2007, 07:40:20 PM »
You know, it's anyones guess these days to help.  I have had more 'Samaritan' moments go wrong, than there were right ones.  I just mind my own business a little more these days, and make sure I am clear of the hazard.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2007, 08:24:54 PM »

          The right thing to do, is to keep on trying to do the right thing.  If folks don't pay attention, that's their problem. Now days, there are so many who are out only for themselves and so, when something is offered to them in the way of info that they need to know (like tail lights out), they tend to ignore cause they might be thinking that someone is messing with them or setting them up for something. A good example is: If I see someone waiting to pull out in traffic, I'll slow up and motion for them to go ahead. Lots of times they just look at me as I was gonna ram them as soon as they pulled out. So many people are only concerned about getting from point "A" to point "B" and nothing else matters. At any rate, I'll keep on trying to do the right thing, to a point and then, I will know that at least I tried. Nobody can fault you for that (nobody in their right mind anyway)
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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 08:37:37 PM »
I put gas in my tank the other day and paid with a 10 for $7.53 worth of gas.  The lady behind the counter was on the phone during the transaction and gave me back $7.53 change.  I told her of her mistake, but she said(between sentences to the person on the phone) that she gave me the right change.  I tried to tell her again, but she gave me a look so I shrugged my shoulders and walked away. 

Still I have to try.  And I'm sure I've been oblivious at points too.

 About 38 years ago I went to the South Lake Mall in Merrerivlle, Ind. where I lived. I went to Browns Sporting Store and bought a 9mm Colt handgun. $249.00 on sale. Gave them $50 deposit and waited 1 week. Went back with $200 cash. The lady behind the counter gave me my reciept marked paid in full and started to walk away. I called out to her and said here's the money and she said that's OK you've got your reciept. I got a dumb look on my face and walked to the back to pick up my NEW gun. They didn't have the box (there were boxes on the shelf behind him that I could see) so the guy back there gave me a brand new Browning padded gun case and said have a good day. Then he screwed up and sold me 2 boxes of shells, which he wasn't suppose to do - at a discount.
Both the older lady and the guy in the back were busy talking to other people and didn't want to be bothered with customers I guess. My lucky day for once. That store went out of business about 6 months later - I wonder why!!!
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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2007, 08:44:16 PM »
17 yr old blonde girl on the phone?? Yeah I seen her too!!

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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2007, 08:52:41 PM »

          Here's another twist:

                   Some years ago, I went into a Western Auto Store (when's the last time you saw one of those?) I picked up a few things, got into a conversation with the salesman while he rung up my purchases, Wrote the check out, finished the conversation and walked out with my things but, I had forgotten to give the guy the check! :-[ I realized while still in the parking lot and went back in and gave him the check. Until I gave him the check, he hadn't realized it yet. He was pretty happy when he realized. ;)

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2007, 09:20:42 PM »
  Thanks for the input guys :) It took a couple hours(and a Denver win) to settle down, and reading your posts got a smile back on my face ;D
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2007, 09:53:02 PM »
Yeah, don't worry about it Sean, I did a similar thing 20 years ago, saw a woman driving on a flat tire, rode up beside her and motioned for her to wind down here window.

She screeched at me, (through her closed window) "WHAT DO YOU WANT????!!!!" So I just said, "Oh nothing" and rode away. Up until then I was happy to change her tire, too......................  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2007, 10:40:42 PM »
Sean,

Please continue to do the right thing. Your efforts might not pay off every time but one day it will make a difference.

Perhaps this was the same pretty blond teenage girl that was talking on her phone and decided she wanted in my lane the previous weekend?! Yeah, I felt kinda sorry for her.  >:( It's really difficult to hold a phone to your ear while carrying on a conversation AND look over your shoulder to see which biker you want to kill. Not to mention that signaling might have disrupted a call. Luckily I had a feeling and was riding very defensively in the center lane. I anticipated her move quickly and got out of her way. Wish I'd had time to hit the horn. She came on over anyway. Pulled up next to her at the light. She didn't have a clue. I politely asked her to get off her phone and pay attention to what the hell she was doing. Again clueless. I told her what she did. "Oh, I thought you were farher back there". "No, that was my riding buddy. I was beside you". "Oh, I'm really sorry". "That's OK, nothing happened. Just please be more careful before you hurt someone". If I had ripped her a new ass, which is my usual tendency, I feel like it would have had a much more negative impact Hopefully since she is still young and possibly impressionable she might learn from this. What I really wanted to do was stick that cell phone up her ass! Damn good thing I have a young daughter that I relate to.     
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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 12:09:33 AM »
I'm tired of people in the world complaining there are no more "good samaritans" anymore. I want to believe I'm one of those, and I try to be helpful anytime I feel there is people in need.

That being said, I have had my share of ungratefulness and it pisses me off. Nowadays, cars are more reliable, cell phones are everywhere, and road assistance is cheap. I do my best to learn how my vehicle works, carry emergency tools and spares, and even then, have roadside assistance just in case. There is people that doesn't do their homework, doesn't learn the basics of emergency repairs, doesn't carry a cellphone when they travel or doesn't have roadside assistance. Then am I suppoused to get them out of the sh1t? If they breakdown, what they need is to wait three hours on the roadside for the tow to arrive, or to wait two hours to get a flat tire replaced that they could have done in 15 minutes, or walk one mile to the next emergency phone because they didn't carry their, or pay $200 to have their car towed back home for five miles. Only then will they learn the lesson. Only twice do I recall having stopped for help; both times I saw women trying unsuccesfully to jack up the car because they didn't even know where to place the jack!. Long time ago my clutch cable broke -in an old car I had-. It was '92, no cellphones, on a highway shoulder. A car stopped by, I thought he was going to offer assistance. Turned out he was somebody out of town asking for directions. I gave him, and then I kept waiting on his turn to offer some help. I am still waiting.



Oh wait, I just remember once I stopped to help somebody put their snow chains. They invited me to coffee, and even offered me a bed in their hometown, halfway of my trip. I gratefully refused, had relatives in the same city and spent the night there. I have offered and asked several times for a jumpstart, and always had good responses. I even asked once a couple of guys for a jumpstart while they were "smoking the dragon" -posted about it in this forum a while ago-

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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 04:44:02 AM »


              Just goes to show ya that,




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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 06:06:22 AM »
I'm going with bill440cars. Somebody has got to do the right thing and it might as well be us. By in large I've found that the biker community is a more considerate part of society on the road. Probably since we are more exposed and have to actually think about what we are doing but more importantly what those tank drivers are doing around us.

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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 06:15:04 AM »
X2  You cannot win against the phone!
And if my business is not important enough for you to get off the phone, I will find someone else, Even if I have to call them! ;D
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2007, 06:24:19 AM »
My wife goes from a solid 8 driver to a marginal 3 when she puts a phone to her ear.  Thats why I got her hands free.  ;D
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2007, 06:26:33 AM »
Here's my good deed gone wrong for ya...

Was coming home from college on a really cold day in January. I see a car on the shoulder with a very old lady standing outside of it looking like she was freezing...so I pull up and offer her a hand. Turns out her son was driving and ran out of gas. I offer for her to jump in my truck and sit and wait where it is atleast warm for her son to return. SHe gets in waits all of 30 seconds and starts going on about how she is worried about him.So I tell her where the only gas station with 20 minutes is (about a 10 minute drive from where we are) and that if he ran out and hitched that is the only spot he would have headed. She pleads to me to take her there to look for her son. I root around in my bag and leave a note for the guy in case he returns and we dont cross paths directly (dont want him panicked that his 100 year old mother was abducted!). We drive about half way there and she starts screaming and freaking out about how I am a bad man trying to steal her and that I am not taking her to any gas station!!! Now I am stuck...I offer to drive back and drop her back off but we are actually closer to the gas station than the car at this point. She's crying and screaming and not listening to a word that I am saying so I make the judgement call to go to the gas station anyways (hell if the guy aint there I can drop the old lady off right?!). We get there and sure enough the guy was filling a gas can and trying to talk someone into giving him a ride back. I pick him up and drive them both back to the car and wow she was a changed person!! She forced me to take 5 bucks from her for my trouble (in reality a hundred wouldn't have been enough to make up for the stressed she caused me!!)...what a friggin day. I was never so glad to get a good deed out of the way! It's true what they say...no good deed goes unpunished! Although there was this one time when I was 18 and picked up a really cute 17 year old girl hitch hiking to her girlfriends house...but that's another story...

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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2007, 07:18:29 AM »
Here's my good deed gone wrong for ya...

Was coming home from college on a really cold day in January. I see a car on the shoulder with a very old lady standing outside of it looking like she was freezing...so I pull up and offer her a hand. Turns out her son was driving and ran out of gas. I offer for her to jump in my truck and sit and wait where it is atleast warm for her son to return. SHe gets in waits all of 30 seconds and starts going on about how she is worried about him.So I tell her where the only gas station with 20 minutes is (about a 10 minute drive from where we are) and that if he ran out and hitched that is the only spot he would have headed. She pleads to me to take her there to look for her son. I root around in my bag and leave a note for the guy in case he returns and we dont cross paths directly (dont want him panicked that his 100 year old mother was abducted!). We drive about half way there and she starts screaming and freaking out about how I am a bad man trying to steal her and that I am not taking her to any gas station!!! Now I am stuck...I offer to drive back and drop her back off but we are actually closer to the gas station than the car at this point. She's crying and screaming and not listening to a word that I am saying so I make the judgement call to go to the gas station anyways (hell if the guy aint there I can drop the old lady off right?!). We get there and sure enough the guy was filling a gas can and trying to talk someone into giving him a ride back. I pick him up and drive them both back to the car and wow she was a changed person!! She forced me to take 5 bucks from her for my trouble (in reality a hundred wouldn't have been enough to make up for the stressed she caused me!!)...what a friggin day. I was never so glad to get a good deed out of the way! It's true what they say...no good deed goes unpunished! Although there was this one time when I was 18 and picked up a really cute 17 year old girl hitch hiking to her girlfriends house...but that's another story...

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OK, so and old lady paniced and probably got confused which is not uncommon. I am sure they were grateful at the end. I want you to imagine how helpless the elderly feel for a moment. Imagine your ability to defend yourself gone. My Father in law was in the first wave at Normandy, and survived. he was one tough bastard and feared no man after that. When he got into his 80's I had to armor his house with alarms and window gates etc. It was sad to see what he had become and even sadder to look into my own future. You did a good deed and the more out of the way you went the "gooder" the deed.
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2007, 07:27:49 AM »
Couldn't agree more BobbyR which is why I stopped in the first place. But man when she started to panick and wouldn't listen to me I didn't know what to do...also bare in mind I was like 19 at the time...would be far more composed now.

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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2007, 08:36:19 AM »
Don't give up hope!  Some guys pulled me over once to tell me that my brake lights weren't working on my car.  That helped me discover that the brake light switch was faulty.  I was really thankful that they let me know before I got rear-ended at a stop light.  I am usually the dummy who goes out of my way to tell somebody about an unsafe situation such as lights out, etc., or stops to help the stuck motorist.

On the other hand, my 4 year old daughter was messing around with my rear brake light switch on my CB550, and she yanked on it in such a way that the brake light remained on at all times.  I went for a ride the next day, and did not notice.  ((YEAH T-CLOCK, I KNOW, I KNOW))  I rode for 150 miles in Suburban traffic, stopping at lights, riding with other motorcyclists, etc.  I didn't notice it until I stopped at an ATM at dusk, and I left the bike running.  Not one single person told me that my brake light was always on.  I guess I lost a little faith in other drivers, but especially motorcyclists that day.

A month or so ago, I got stuck on the side of the Palisades Interstate Parkway with a minor electrical problem on a beautiful Sunday ride.  I was fiddling around trying to figure out the problem for about 30 minutes.  At least 200 motorcyclists rode by before I got the bike fixed, and not a single one stopped or even slowed down to ask if I was OK.  Most of the damned morons that are riding their $20,000 Harleys, BMWs, and other "powersports" vehicles these days don't know sh!t about motorcycles anyway, so they might as well keep on going.  I've got a cell phone just like they do, so thanks for nothing, @$$H0LES.

Just 15 years ago that was unheard of.  I remember riding home from Boston -- in a hurricane -- back in 93(?).  My bike was running rough, so I pulled over to the side of the highway for a moment before I realized that I just needed to switch to reserve.  Within 20 seconds, another motorcyclist -- an old fart on an old Harley (yes, in the middle of a hurricane!!!) --  pulled up behind me to see if I needed any help!  That gave me a feeling of safety -- that I wasn't alone out there -- that no matter what mechanical failure happened, another motorcyclist could be relied upon to help.  Since then, I always stop when I see a bike on the side of the road, just to ask if they are ok.

Most riders these days don't have the same rebellious, self-reliant spirit of brotherhood that we used to have.  If the bike breaks down, they call roadside assistance for a tow, and wait like pVssies at the side of the road, since they don't even know that their bikes come with a toolkit under the seat.  What good are tools if you don't know how to use them anyway?  Then they wait six months for the dealership to get around to fixing the stupid, minor problem with their bike, they pay their $1000 repair+towing bill, and then they go back to screwing their customers/clients/patients on Monday morning so they can afford to play "big bad biker" a couple times a year.

Jeez.  I won't raise my kids that way.  When my son was 4 we went to the NY motorcycle show and wowed the Ducati salesmen with his knowledge of cylinder heads, camshafts, pistons, spark plugs, etc.  My 4 year old daugher already knows the pointy end of a screwdriver, too.  Hopefully, they will be good samaritans, too.

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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2007, 10:32:47 AM »
geez ed,i hope you feel better now. ;D
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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2007, 10:44:42 AM »
My cafe bike broke down on me the other day.  I figured it was probably fuel-related, which it turned out to be a clogged fuel filter, but I stupidly haven't found a place to put any tools on my bike yet so I couldn't have fixed it if I wanted to.

I finally give up and call my friend with a trailer to come help me out.  It was about 8pm on a sunday night, and the temperature was starting to drop into the 40s.  I told him to pick me up at the Wal-Mart parking lot, which unfortunately was about 2 miles away from where I was.  I figured that by the time he got to the wal-mart, I would probably just be pushing the bike into the parking lot.

So here I am, pushing the bike for 2 miles along on the shoulder of a dark 4 lane divided highway.  Of the hundreds of cars and trucks that passed me (all of which could see me...) only one pickup towing a box trailer stopped.  Unfortunately he stopped about 400 feet ahead of me (which was about 300 feet past the wal-mart entrance) and put on his hazards.  I can only assume he wanted to help out, but I really didn't want to push an extra 300 feet to find out, so I just went into the parking lot.

Oh well.  I certainly would have stopped and helped out if I had seen some guy pushing a bike down the roadside.  I guess there was only one other person like me on that particular road that night.
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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2007, 11:16:33 AM »
Yes, you know what makes me feel better?  Knowing that there are hundreds of thousands of people like nurses, doctors, EMTs, firemen, and the like who dedicate their entire lives to helping other people, and saving other people's lives.  Yes, they get paid to do their jobs, but most of them (except the expensive 5th Ave plastic surgeons, for example) are not paid nearly well enough for what they do.

They are the real "good samaritans", and they do it all day, every day.

geez ed,i hope you feel better now. ;D
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Re: Good samaritan OR #$%*'em, let somebody else deal with it?
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2007, 12:18:25 PM »
You know why I still stop to push people out of a snow bank, jump them, or any number of road related assists after so many rude or ungrateful responses from people?  It's because the ones that need/want the help are so appreciative that they make up for the ungratefuls. 

Couple winters ago I saw a car blocking traffic at a pretty busy intersection.  They did not have their lights on and it was dark out.  So I pull up behind them (got my oldest in the truck with me, he was 4 at the time) and throw on my hazards so no one hits then.  I walk up to the car to see if they need help and it's an elderly couple.  The wife was crying and the husband looked mentally beat up.  I told them I could push the car off to the side of the road  if she wanted to steer.  She said, "Really?!  We have been here for over an hour hoping someone would help us."  So I got them out of traffic and they asked for a ride to a pay phone to call for a tow truck.  Instead I gave them a jump and followed them home.  You could tell they had given up hope and they were so greatful that someone stopped to help.  I'll take 100 middle fingers for pointing out someone's low tire or brake lights being out if I can get the chance to help someone that truly needs it.

The reason I pointed out that my son was with me is because we are responsible for keeping good people around.  Leading by example is the only way to go.  You've got to teach the kids that they will be the ones filling your roll when you get too old to do it.  Besides, if we don't teach the kids to act this way, who will pull US out of the ditch in February when we are 80 years old.  ;)