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Offline cijiwij

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cam chain slap at idle
« on: August 10, 2005, 07:59:17 AM »
cleaned my carbs but still have that cam chain slap sound in the lower engine at idle..if that is what it is...almost wants to stall..any ideas??

78 cb550k

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Re: cam chain slap at idle
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2005, 08:16:46 AM »
Did you synch the carbs??
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Offline lrutt

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Re: cam chain slap at idle
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2005, 08:41:11 AM »
How do you know it's cam chain and not primary chain. My guess is the primary chain is the source of most of your noise at idle.
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Re: cam chain slap at idle
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2005, 10:07:13 AM »
I guess it could be either. No I dont know how to sync the carbs, everything i try to fix is a bit iffy and I am inclined..

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Re: cam chain slap at idle
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2005, 11:06:36 AM »
Does the noise change when you pull in/out the clutch?

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Re: cam chain slap at idle
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2005, 11:27:39 AM »
no it does not change then. it get a litle better as the bike warms up

Offline Philly550K1

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Re: cam chain slap at idle
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2005, 12:45:52 PM »
getting the timing correct, and point gaps the same, should help....

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Re: cam chain slap at idle
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2005, 09:15:37 AM »
Two Tired..yes it does change a bit when you pull the clutch..there is still noise but it changes nature of the noise,

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Re: cam chain slap at idle
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2005, 11:40:29 AM »
The noise that goes away when the clutch is disengaged is the clutch, the transmission gear lash, and probably the primary chain slap. The latter is not disengaged but inertial loads have changed.

Next would be to isolate the location of the noise that remains.  If you take a long screwdriver and hold the handle in your ear socket, you can probe with the tip of the driver and find where the noise is the loudest.  Is it from the bottom of the engine or nearer to the valve cover?

Have you adjusted the cam chain tension properly? Is the lock down bolt tight?  Does the jam nut turn free of the adjuster stud during adjustment.

Carb  sync, as well as general engine tune, effects the intensity of each cylinder's power stroke.  If not even, the crankshaft rotational velocity changes within the firing order cycle.  Any chain attached to the crank then alternates which side is slack.  There are two; the cam and primary.

These bikes need a complete tuneup every 3000 miles.  Have you adhered to the maintenence schedule?  When was the last tune up?
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