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That's interesting re: the handling comments.That was one of their claims to fame, back in the day, is that they were the best handlers of the UJMs of the time. The '78 GS1000 is reputed to have eclipsed the CBX, the KZ and the Excess 11 in terms of handling.Myself, I've never ridden a 1000 or 1100 GS. I had a 82 GS750 (4-valver), but at the time, I lived in S. Florida where the roads are flat & straight as an arrow, so I never got a feel for how they handled.Owned an XS11, too, but again, was in S. Fla, so I didn't experience how BAD they were reputed to handle.Hmmm....Kirk
Well it's always difficult to argue the merits of 30 year old bikes with guys who may have ridden the same model bikes in recent times, with 30 years of wear, old, under-inflated tires, worn out shocks etc, but back in the day, the GS series Suzuki's were considered to be the first bikes to come out of Japan that actually compared well to European bikes, as far as handling went. Rather than expound my opinion further, here's an excerpt from Petersen's "Great Bikes of the 70's":
Well Terry,Sorry to butt heads with you. I really much prefer to have similar rather than opposing points of view, and I respect yours. I don't care much for your reference to Disney, but freely admit that my past isn't legendary. Your rebuttal does make me realize that there must be a significant handling difference between the litre/1100g model and the s model, Although I had a gs750 as well in the early 90's, I can't really recall what it cornered like, all I recall is that it had a much higher seat height than the 1100g, and ran hot.Perhaps something of our difference in opinion can be made of the poor experience you relate with the r100. I've also had a couple of Beemers, and haven't been dissatisfied, although I've never had to put anywhere near that much dough into one. I wonder if we ride the same types of routes, or it's just different strokes. Anyway, maybe this is an incentive for checking out another GS, now that I am better able to solve the charging woes I had with my last one, so that I can reevaluate. However, I need another bike like another job.All best,Ben
G'Day Ben, you're right mate, there's nothing wrong with having a difference of opinion (lets face it, the majority of posts will only ever be opnions) as long as we keep it friendly, (which some guys here have a problem with, hence I don't reply to Mark's posts any more) and the reference to Walt Disneys "Tall tales and true from our legendary past" is a reference to how over time, we either demonise, or cannonise, something, as our memories fade.The BMW R100RS was only recent history though, as I sold it in 2004, after owning it for 12 years. I did a lot of miles on it, but hated the "agricultural" gearbox, hand numbing vibration, thin seat, diving front forks, "shaft effect" picking up and dropping the rear of the bike when I got on and off the gas, pathetic electrics (alternator doesn't charge until the engine is doing 2000 RPM, even a new alternator rotor and stator and electronic regulator/rectifier couldn't stop the battery going flat on my daily commute, and riding with "lights on" was not an option) brake discs that wore out, crap ATE (Volkswagen) front calipers that make single puck CB750 items look good, oil leaks, access to the oil filter requiring the fairing lowers and crash bars be removed, etc etc. Most of that has been fixed with the K bikes, my current K1100LT is a wonderful thing, in comparison.Now I've only ever ridden a GS1100G once, and even though I did have a GS750 and GS 1000G until recently, they were "projects" and so were sold off before I got too many opportunities to ride them. The GS1000S, at 514 pounds and 88 BHP was only 5 pounds heavier than the GS750, but had another 22 BHP, (mine is the "Big Port" version with closer to 100 BHP) so was a rocket, (40 pounds lighter than the Kawasaki KZ1000, and between 54 and 57 pounds lighter than the Honda CBX and Yamaha XS1100, respectively)) and would leave everything but the Honda CBX in it's wake, and while the porcine CBX wallowed around the bends, the Suzuki ran like it was on rails. If you want to find out more about the GS bikes, go to TheGSResources.com site, it is dedicated to just the GS bikes, and is huge. There are some incredible bikes there, and many more real "experts" than we have here, or at least a lot more guys with racing cred, because since the introduction of the GS series Suzukis, they have been extremely successful on the track, and further drove home that nail that Kawasaki drove into the coffin of Honda's racing aspirations. Oh, and yeah, Suzuki electrics are a pain, I've just installed a BMW power socket on my "Wes Cooley Replica" so I can use my BMW trickle charger to keep the battery topped up. Having said that, I still wouldn't trade it for any BMW (or Honda) that I can think of. Cheers, Terry.
Thats funny, you don't reply to my posts because I'm unfriendly?Only in the last 2 months have you shown any sign of civility whatsoever to most people here.Kettle, meet pot.I never had a BMW newer than 72. I was always surprised at how well the front drum brake worked and how well the charging sytem did.Must have been quite a few changes between the slash fives and the later bikes.Azure, ask Terry for me what he thought of the handling on his actual project 750 and 1000.I was looking at the gs1100, 750 and 550 today, and one thing I noticed was that the steering stock seems to sit quite a bit higher than it's coounterparts from other companies of the time. Could be an optical illusion, though.Maybe I'll help Marcus get the 1100 running properly in the next couple of weeks, and take it for a spin.I just don't remember them being that good.
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