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Offline eurban

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Re: 1080cc bike?
« Reply #125 on: May 06, 2008, 05:36:06 AM »
Looks like a single disc setup up front . . . .but how come it is on the wrong side?

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« Reply #126 on: May 06, 2008, 05:50:31 AM »
There is no wrong side on a custom bike.. its cleaner to mount brake on right & matches rear as well.
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« Reply #127 on: May 06, 2008, 10:48:40 AM »
Cool lookin front fender on that sucker.

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« Reply #128 on: May 06, 2008, 04:48:58 PM »
Looks like a single disc setup up front . . . .but how come it is on the wrong side?

Nah, it's just the angle of the pic, there's two brake hoses coming down from the splitter, and you can just see nthe back of the other caliper bracket, so there'll be two calipers. I wonder what happened to that bike? Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #129 on: May 08, 2008, 08:22:09 AM »
I wonder if the ?1080? sold...

Kinda quiet on here,

 I am starting to miss all the SABRE pRATTLING & RANTING... back & forth.. :D
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« Reply #130 on: May 08, 2008, 10:58:51 AM »
Now now, be nice  :)

Carpy's Big Head 1080 Machine did not meet reserve. Went up to $3500+. I truely believe his advertising sells his name and his products when/if they sell, and not what is being sold. Ah, the American Dream and the power of advertising.
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« Reply #131 on: May 13, 2008, 08:00:01 PM »
I almost forgot..
 1080s bro has a stock engine 750 in a chopper (not honda, but from the 80,s)..

 He would gladly race against a Magna or Sabre with his litle 3/4 litre..

 IU should mention, it has  done a 10 sec 1/4  in real llfe too..
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« Reply #132 on: May 13, 2008, 08:22:32 PM »
Sure it has. A 750 "stock"? Sorry but there has to be paper to back that one for sure.

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« Reply #133 on: May 13, 2008, 08:25:31 PM »
There is a time slip to prove it. The bike is quick, usually runs low 11,s with ease... 1080 has ridden it..
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« Reply #134 on: May 13, 2008, 08:30:29 PM »
Didn't Kawasaki make a 750 triple two cycle with a turbo. Was faster than hell but wasn't really safe to ride for more than a 1/4 mile if that and then only in a straight line.

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Re: 1080cc bike?
« Reply #135 on: May 13, 2008, 09:09:50 PM »
Didn't Kawasaki make a 750 triple two cycle with a turbo. Was faster than hell but wasn't really safe to ride for more than a 1/4 mile if that and then only in a straight line.

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« Reply #136 on: May 13, 2008, 09:53:38 PM »
All I am saying is 10s with an 80s750? I would need to see it. If it is true, then it is but when the magna/sabre was the fastest bike of the day, I cant see how a STOCK 750 is faster without serious weight loss but then it is not stock now is it.

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« Reply #137 on: May 13, 2008, 10:09:31 PM »
Careful Eldy, he only said stock engine:P
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« Reply #138 on: May 13, 2008, 10:11:08 PM »
Just think of who built a really quick 750 in the 80s..
They also built the fastest/quickest Bike out of Japan in the 70,s


Now you transplant that into a chopper..

 and then you realize that with a springer and 6 bend pullbacks.. that you could maybe die.. :o

 So you put a tube front fork back on, and drag bars... and now it can be ridden really fast............... ;D
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Re: 1080cc bike?
« Reply #139 on: May 13, 2008, 10:25:45 PM »
Christ 754,  7 months and your already an old timer around here :o :o

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« Reply #140 on: May 14, 2008, 04:45:27 AM »
Didn't Kawasaki make a 750 triple two cycle with a turbo. Was faster than hell but wasn't really safe to ride for more than a 1/4 mile if that and then only in a straight line.


Kawasaki sold a factory-turbo'd edition of the Z1.  That's probably the bike you're thinking of.  And not only was it not safe to ride, but it had a penchant to eat bearings outta the motor.  Crazy sounding bike though :D

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« Reply #141 on: May 14, 2008, 09:32:36 AM »
The bike is the Turbo 750cc Kawasaki. He matched the 10.78 second quarter mile E.T. in a Amen frame , street tire and no wheelebars.  I won a dyno shootout for the 750cc class in 1996. Dyno 108hp they were 110hp stock engine. My brother had played with the boost and was reducing the boost maybe he did not want his bike blown up when I raced it in 1996 so my best time was 11.02sec. Talking about trying to leave when turbo is generating boost priceless.

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« Reply #142 on: May 14, 2008, 09:38:24 AM »
WOW, was the dumb KY kid was right!  :o
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« Reply #143 on: May 14, 2008, 01:20:27 PM »
Ah well then the bike is not stock. With the amen, weight is quite a bit less.  So would bikes like this be called "hybrid"? :D

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« Reply #144 on: May 14, 2008, 01:42:39 PM »
Ah well then the bike is not stock. With the amen, weight is quite a bit less.  So would bikes like this be called "hybrid"? :D

Me thinks that a lot of the responses you have gotten probably have a lot of elastic in them. You need to read between the lines and not take it to heart to much. 20 to 30 years and other inducements can change how things are percieved and reality is and can be confusing. Some people from the 70's are still there in minds. It was a very mind bending time as I recall for many. 
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« Reply #145 on: May 14, 2008, 01:47:53 PM »
You are right of course. I think there may even be some with trouble getting into the 80s! ;D

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« Reply #146 on: May 14, 2008, 08:14:38 PM »
[uA bit of history

 

The 750 turbo (ZX750E) was released in 1984, alongside the all-new GPz900R. Although carrying GPz badges on the engine covers, it was only referred to by Kawasaki as the "750 turbo" - the GPz tag wasn't mentioned. Development started in January 1981 as a turbocharged 650, then as a 750 from November 1981.When finally released, the stock bike made a claimed 112 hp, had sports bike handling (for the day) and looked good - especially next to the other factory turbos which were already on the market - the Suzuki XN85, Honda CX500 and 650 turbos, and the Yamaha XJ650 turbo. Performance was on a par with the GPz1100,  at around 11.2 secs at 125mph for the quarter mile and 148mph flat out. One magazine even branded it the fastest bike they had ever tested, and Kawasaki ran some ads claiming it to be "The Fastest Production Motorcycle in the World". Jay "PeeWee" Gleason also famously recorded a 10.71 quarter for Kawasaki to show that the turbo had genuine performance and was ahead of the other factory turbos.

 

 

This 1982 pre-production prototype was exhibited at the Tokyo Show, alongside the XN85 Suzuki turbo. The fairing was aluminium.

More pics of this bike courtesy of Frans van de Laar (and the magazine he pinched them from). Thankyou Frans. Click on pics for a bigger image.

       

         

The following info is from the workshop manual supplement.

Overall Dimensions

Overall Length  2220mm 
Overall Width  740mm 
Overall height  1260mm 
Wheelbase  1490mm 
Ground Clearance  155mm 
Seat Height  780mm 
Dry Weight  233kg (512lbs) 
Fuel Tank Capacity  17 litres 
Braking Distance  12.5 metres from 50km/h 
Turning Radius  2.7m 
 

 Engine

Type  4-stroke, DOHC, 4-cylinder 
Cooling system  Air cooled 
Bore and stroke  66 x 54mm 
Displacement  738cc 
Compression Ratio  7.8:1 
Maximum horsepower  82.4kw (112 PS) 
Maximum torque  99.1Nm (73.1ft-lb) @ 6500rpm 
Ignition timing  10 degrees BTDC @ 1050rpm to 30 degrees BTDC @ 3300rpm 
Spark plug  BR9EV 
Valve timing Inlet  Open 22 degrees BTDC
Close 52 degrees ABDC
Duration 254 degrees 
Valve timing Exhaust  Open 60 degrees BBDC
Close 20 degrees ATDC
Duration 260 degrees 
Oil capacity  3.5 litres 
Primary reduction ratio  1.935 
Gear Ratios  1st 2.285, 2nd 1.647, 3rd 1.272, 4th 1.045, 5th 0.833 
Overall drive ratio  4.946 (in top gear) 

Frame / Electrical

Rake  28 degrees 
Front tyre  110/90 V 18 
Rear tyre  130/80 V 18 
Front fork travel  130mm 
Rear wheel travel  105mm 
Battery  12V 18ah 
Alternator output  20A @ 8000 rpm 
Tyre Pressures US and Canada  Front 28psi, Rear 32-36psi 
Tyre Pressures Rest of world  Front 32psi, rear 41psi 
Front fork air pressure  5.7 - 8.5psi 
Rear shock air pressure  7.1 - 43psi, 28 recommended 
     

 
 

 
 How fast does it go, Mister?

Not everyone likes tuning their bikes for more power and speed, but many turbo owners do and for them here is a list of achievements by 750 turbo owners gleaned from the forum and elsewhere. If you know of any incorrect entry or omission please email me with a timeslip or dyno chart if possible. See the Galleries for the specification of most of the bikes listed here.

Top Speed

Can't argue with this. Top speeds listed here are recorded on a track with trackside timing equipment. GPS not accepted - take it to the track!

Speed (M.P.H.) Owner
211.0 Lorcan Parnell GT25 810
192.7 John Voter, HPU 880
185.2 Lorcan Parnell T25 810
169 Wally Cleber, 810 nitrous
162.15 Lorcan Parnell, 760 methanol Rajay
156 Bart Knowles, HPU 880
   

 

Power

A word about Dyno correction factors. Dynamometers measure torque, which is a rotary motion (the wheel rotating) and convert it to Horsepower, which is a linear motion (like a horse pulling a weight). This gives you a figure you can brag to your mates about in the pub. There is a simple equation to convert between the two, because they are the same thing measured different ways. In addition to this modern often dynos spew out their figures corrected for barometric pressure and air temperature in a variety of formats. DIN, SAE,  and STD correction factors are commonly used. If the Dyno is a Dynojet one, ask for the run file on disk and you can download run viewer information from their site and convert between them.

Power can also be measured in PS, and KW. To save any confusion I'll just try to list the bikes in order of output after I've done the conversions.

Power (correction factor) Owner
282.9hp Jeff Jareo, HPU 880 nitrous* Dyno chart
286PS Wally Cleber, 810 nitrous 
234hp Kllrvet, 810 Stage 5 Dyno chart
230hp John Voter, HPU 880 
230hp Mick Hueby, 810 IHI nitrous 
206hp (STD) Steve Leonard, 810 Garrett VNT15 Dyno chart
202hp Jeff Jareo, HPU 880 
196hp Lorcan Parnell T25 810 
184hp Steve Smith, HPU 880 Stage 4 
176hp Deathco, 810 
165hp John Altom, HPU 880 Stage 5 
155hp Ryan Werth, HPU 810 Stage 2 

*Jeff's sand dragbike runs 100 yds in 3.60 seconds at 95.225 mph

Quarter Mile Elapsed Time (E.T.)

E.T. (seconds) Owner
8.64 Wally Cleber, 810 nitrous   
8.69 Lorcan Parnell, 760 methanol Rajay   
9.0 Bart Knowles, HPU 880   
9.58 Donnie Crow, HPU 810 Stage 2 Slip
10.0 Steve Smith, HPU 880 Stage 4   
10.10 Lorcan Parnell T25 810
10.52 Mick Hueby, 810 IHI nitrous   
10.84 John Altom, HPU 880 Stage 5   
10.89 Dennis Raiford, stock engine, pipe ,K&N   
     

 

Terminal Speed (at end of quarter mile)

M.P.H. Owner
169 Wally Cleber, 810 nitrous
162 Lorcan Parnell, 760 methanol Rajay
156 Bart Knowles, HPU 880
146 Donnie Crow, HPU 810 Stage 2
146 Lorcan Parnell T25 810
142 Steve Smith, HPU 880 Stage 4
124 Dennis Raiford, stock engine, pipe, K&N
   
   
   

 

 
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« Reply #147 on: May 14, 2008, 08:41:49 PM »
 Thanks for that post 1080. I remember reading about it and the sand drags. Those were great.

No question about it, it was and still is one quick - fast bike. I remember reading articles about it and old Pee Wee. I remember he said he was so short and light weight that he had trouble with the bigger bikes keeping the front end down cause he was so short and light, but he could sure ride. He did specify that the Honda 1100 Magana was really hard for him to ride because of the seating on it was to far back.
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« Reply #148 on: May 14, 2008, 08:43:24 PM »
 Jay Gleason absolutely hated the name "Pee Wee". It pissed him off to no boundaries. I spoke with him in the late 70's in a chance meeting and he detested it than. He has disappeared now.....into obscurity.
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« Reply #149 on: May 14, 2008, 08:53:21 PM »
1080, now that is a real post with info. Thanks for that. Much to look at.