Author Topic: Police CB650PZ (Read 110456 times)

mystic_1 · « **Reply #75 on:** June 14, 2008, 06:10:44 AM »

Try a chemical paint stripper first, a lot easier than sanding it off.

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Hush · « **Reply #76 on:** June 15, 2008, 12:46:04 AM »

Now you tell me!!!!

I spent a good hour on just the points cover, I'm pleased with the results but as the other 2 covers I want to clean are much bigger I might take your advice on this one Mystic1.

Hush · « **Reply #77 on:** June 16, 2008, 05:06:49 AM »

Dear diary: tried a chemical paint stripper on the stator cover but all it did was remove the muck paint that PO had brushed on.
Actually I quite like the look of the standard Honda flat grey paint work, I might leave it like that for now.
Will have a go at the gearchange cover tomorrow as I wait for those bluddy float valves and steering bearings!!!!

Hush · « **Reply #78 on:** June 17, 2008, 03:23:28 AM »

Dear diary: still no steering bearings though I am reassured that they are on their way!
Ditto the float valves.
Had a go at taking the paint off the gearchange cover, that original Honda paint is God damn tough, used a bit of paint remover on the front guard with slightly better results.
Oh well.........tomorrow is another day.

Hush · « **Reply #79 on:** June 18, 2008, 01:08:05 AM »

Dear diary: yes God hates me and Murphy's law still rules.
Finally my parts arrived, yes both the steering bearings and the carb float valves!
But I was ordered to spend the day clearing space for Mrs Hush's soon to be arriving pink plastic kamakazi scooter.
I have explained to her that I have no idea what makes these things go or how to fix them if they stop.
I'm betting I'd have to make parts out of old tin cans and dish wash bottles if it blows up.
Apparently it "will" keep up with traffic (but not a fully tuned CB650PZ Honda)

and run on the smell of an oily rag.
Hopefully not too many of my mates will see this monstrosity,

I know one person who wont be fighting to ride it (even if I came within the 100kg weight restriction).

She even bought a pink girlie helmet to go with it, that aint going anywhere near the Honda!!!!

DarkRider · « **Reply #80 on:** June 18, 2008, 01:42:31 AM »

Im assuming she went and bought that thing on her own?

Hush · « **Reply #81 on:** June 18, 2008, 05:10:13 AM »

No I stood in the background fuming that I could have got her a nice wee CB550 off Trade-me for half the price and I wouldn't have been embaressed in public by her riding a nice CB550 that I could rebuild.
But ooooh nooooo she knows better, $2000 for something the sun will probably melt, now I know where all our recycling goes to......a cheap scooter factory in China!!!
With the price of petrol (gasoline) at $2.12 a litre (whats that about 8 bucks a gallon?) she decided that her 4 litre Ford is costing her too much to run, note here that she steals my 2 litre Nissan Sylvia every chance she gets!
Ah well it's done now and "Scooter girl" is born (insert here Crazy Frog's famous scooter noise: ringdinga ding dinga ding ding ding)

troppo · « **Reply #82 on:** June 18, 2008, 05:16:57 AM »

Tell her theres a law that stated a "real" bike should never share space with a "toy" scooter....
Gives you a good reason to build another workshop

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And while your sleeping on the couch you can think of ways to make it bigger and better than the workshop you have now

bzr · « **Reply #83 on:** June 18, 2008, 07:56:09 PM »

Admit it, you'll probably take it for a ride sometime, but you just won't tell anybody. And especially not us.

Hush · « **Reply #84 on:** June 19, 2008, 12:30:36 AM »

Dear diary: today I finally got around to fitting the mysterious "tapered bearings" to my bikes steering head.
With much trepidation I unpacked them all and marvelled at their beauty, yep you guessed it, I mucked around too scared to fit them.
I read "all" the paper work that came with the ALL BALLZ bearings, finding that no help whatsoever I followed their pamphlet directions to their internet site which was difficult to navigate.
And wouldn't you know it yep same directions as came with bearings.
So had a wee play at the kitchen table and figured out the order of the spacers and how to measure the required stack.
God help any newbie who orders these......instructions nil!?
Anyhow I got mine in and the steering is great, refitted the disk brake calipers and reset the handle bars to where they should have been, this achieved two results, brake reserve now gives true reading and clutch cable now not so stuck up in air.
Will leave front wheel off until next week when new tire goes on.
Had enough pictures to do a short how-to thread in SOHC main page so that's where they are....waits for experts to rain scorn upon my efforts....ha ha I'm bullet proof.

Hush · « **Reply #85 on:** June 20, 2008, 04:45:06 AM »

Dear diary: today I got a little more serious with the paint removal from front guard, it's down to bare metal now and as PO had half done it (exactly half way from the front back) I was compelled to finish the job like that.
Have Had a change of heart on the engine side casings, they look real good in that battleship grey Honda originally did them in and as they just laugh at paint remover no matter how many coats I use I have decided in the interest of speeding up getting bike on road to live with them, hey they look kinda cool and the bike is an old lady at 30!
Having difficulty putting the front sprocket cover on, this is sort of normal for me in this area, tend to blame the thick starter motor cable for holding the casing too far out but in a Eureka moment I noticed that the PO must have had a Jezzwhatthe #$%*wasthat moment as the chain rattled through trying to bust into the engine casing.
The casing internally has a hole whacked out of it and the internal chain guard is bent and twisted, this may be holding the casing away from the gearbox, more fiddling and investigations to go on this.
Am considering getting new exhaust manifold gaskets (the crushable O ring ones) and resetting the 4 into 1's that I do have to rid bike of annoying exhaust leak.
With the scarcity of original 2 into 1's I am coming to the conclusion that I may be waiting years to find a set and just to make the 650 roadworthy I'll live with them.
One problem arises pretty quickly though, the 4 into 1's hold the centre stand down too low and cornering on left side is nearly impossible, may reset stopper block on pipes and see if that helps.

Hush · « **Reply #86 on:** June 21, 2008, 12:17:45 AM »

Dear diary: today another breakthrough, since buying this bike I have had the uncomfortable feeling that the PO who had two CB650's for sale at the same time, swapped parts between them to make the other bike look better than it was.
For one the exhausts pictured in the sale advert had my bike with chrome 2 into 1's and the 4 into 1's that came with my bike didn't fit well.
On the clutch side of the engine, the side casing wouldn't fit because there was a spacer in both the engine and the side case!
Well after much frustraition at trying to get the front sprocket cover casing to fit I discovered the same problem, small metal dowell pin, one in engine and one in casing duh!!!
Very happy the way sprocket cover fits now, just getting that sorted made the day worth it.
Ran the bike just to hear the motor again, think much of the engine noise is from bad fitting pipes and non sync carbs.
Still thinking on how to adjust 4 into 1's so centre stand can clear ground.

MJL · « **Reply #87 on:** June 21, 2008, 06:10:20 AM »

On my 650 I had a "tick" coming from the left side of the motor, and I assumed it was a rocker that needed adjustment. Well, one cold spring morning I was warming up the bike and noticed little puffs coming from the exhaust pipe of the #1 cylinder. I tightened it and the tick went away.

Once you get the motor tuned you will probably find that the various noises go away and it runs as smooth and quiet as a sewing machine.

Hush · « **Reply #88 on:** June 21, 2008, 09:33:03 PM »

I'm hoping MJL, I know the exhausts are just on at the moment and had been holding off to see if I could score a replacement set of origies but no luck so plan b is make the most of what I have.
New gaskets and tighten the manifolds up should do the trick.
Think a lot of my engine noise is actually carb sync required and exhausts leaking from head.

Hush · « **Reply #89 on:** June 23, 2008, 04:37:25 AM »

Dear diary: not much to report, bare metaled the front guard, found it had bog in it at the bottom rear so looks like someone spilled off her at some stage.
Ordered a set of 4 crushable exhaust gaskets ($10 cheap eh

) and that was it for the bike today.
Big week coming up, new front tire hopefully, my son recommended that as there is a Metzler on there already that I should replace with same, we'll see.

DarkRider · « **Reply #90 on:** June 23, 2008, 03:56:40 PM »

Bike is starting to shape up nicely man!

Hush · « **Reply #91 on:** June 27, 2008, 04:12:44 AM »

Dear diary: today I got hold of the hex (Allen key) screws I wanted for the carbs, am sick of fiddling with bent screw drivers to remove bowls everytime the floats jam or leak.
Have the new float valves ready to install and the exhaust gaskets arrived yesterday in the mail? (who would put gaskets in an envelope? no wonder they don't charge postage!)
So have dropped the 4 into 1's off and tomorrow will have all this back on the bike and hopefully she will sound a bit better and be minus the leaking carbs.

Ecosse · « **Reply #92 on:** June 27, 2008, 12:44:57 PM »

I love this project. What's your dog's name?

Hush · « **Reply #93 on:** June 27, 2008, 03:34:47 PM »

He's named BERLEY and is a pure bred fox terrier (runt of litter)and as I have a boat I warned the partner that if her new puppy messed up on the boat when we were out fishing he would end up as berley.

But he has turned out to be a very good boat dog so he gets to live, he has now developed a liking for motorcycling and jumps onto his mistress's scooter when ever she get ready for a ride.
Not sure how he will go on my 650 but as he's watched me do every repair on it he will be a world of knowledge on Honda CB650 restoring.

Ecosse · « **Reply #94 on:** June 27, 2008, 03:47:33 PM »

Animals are great! they never cease to amaze.

Suppose a sidecar in police livery is in the future?

My cat loved to supervise my wrenching on the '60 Dodge.

Hush · « **Reply #95 on:** June 28, 2008, 03:38:45 AM »

Yeah Berley says gidday!

troppo · « **Reply #96 on:** June 28, 2008, 03:59:19 AM »

Your berley just about cost me my monitor, had my cat troppo on my lap, he saw the pic and attacked the laptop monitor lol

fishman_Phil · « **Reply #97 on:** June 28, 2008, 07:58:43 PM »

Hey Hush ... check this out. Here is a Police bike not too far from you. Only thing, it is a Yamahahaha
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Classic-vintage/auction-163236230.htm
Cheers ... Phil in NZ

Hush · « **Reply #98 on:** June 29, 2008, 03:34:51 AM »

Would be a good project but look at his asking price $9500 for something you would have to do some work on.
Don't those plastic instruments look like rubbish?
Nah if it was a Honda 1000 then we would be talking!

Hush · « **Reply #99 on:** July 02, 2008, 03:07:22 AM »

Dear diary: finally got out to fit the new exhaust gaskets and carb float valves.
Had to adjust (read attack with hacksaw) the ugly 4 into 1's at the centre stand bracket, custom fit now works very well and am pleased with result.
Would have been really pleased if second task had worked out better as I really wanted to hear the bike run with no exhaust leaks at the head......but!!!
Tore off all carb bowls, refitted new float valves and replaced cross head bowl screws with shiny new hex/allen key screws.
All set to go so turn on the gas tap and suddenly the garage is full of petrol flooding from carb number one.
Now the main reason to replace all the float valves was to stop this so am greatly displeased.
Took the No1 bowl off again but could find no fault, took apart float system and again no visual problems, rebuilt carbs, turned on gas.....more flooding!!
Anyhow, took bowls apart again and decided to check float level in petrol, darn......float sinks on one side!!!
Forum member commented that this is exactly what had happened to him when float had hole in it.
Tomorrow, wreckers.....replace float....start bike....hopefully.

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Author Topic: Police CB650PZ (Read 110456 times)

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