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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #100 on: April 30, 2009, 08:43:06 am »
bike rides great, and is now pretty comfy on longer rides since the suspension overhaul and swapping  the clubmans to superbike bars. My only project left to complete this bike is getting the front brakes to be able to stop this beast a little better... then maybe I could ride it as fast as it wants to go.
The engine has lots of snap, it sticks to the road and handles great, but still stops like a 1970's bike :( the EBC pads and caliper rebuild helped some, but I definitely need some more stopping power to reign it in...

After I get to re-lace the wheels, my next project will be SS braided lines and an EBC rotor and that should do the job (or else I am looking at dual discs or an aftermarket caliper and M/C  :-[ $$$$$  :-[).

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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #101 on: April 30, 2009, 09:13:30 am »
the covers came out really good, i like what you did with the sprocket cover too
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #102 on: April 30, 2009, 01:56:48 pm »
have you thought about the dual disc conversion?
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #103 on: April 30, 2009, 02:53:37 pm »
thought about it...
I don't want to change forks after all the work I put into them, and I am pretty sure I can't bolt on another stock disc and caliper to the right side (could be wrong on that though). EBC disc is first upgrade on the list w/ SS braided lines and that should do the trick. If not, I revisit the dual disc option I guess.

I have meant to put some pix of the rear brake anchor arm I made, but I am too lazy...
here is a link to the thread w/ the progress there: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=46885.45



« Last Edit: May 01, 2009, 06:56:29 am by 78CB750CAFE »
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 2/15/09)
« Reply #104 on: May 01, 2009, 07:08:51 am »
There is a "how to" I did about a week ago on installing aux signal lights that has pix and info on the rear LED flex strip I got from Custom Dynamics you can find here:
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=46474.0

Which specific light did you get from custom dynamics, I'm interested in using one for my build, but there are so many choices on that website I can't figure out which one you used.

Thanks,

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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #105 on: May 01, 2009, 09:52:20 am »
http://www.customdynamics.com/integrated_led_light_bars.htm
I believe the one I got is 3amber/9red/3amber and clocks in just under 6"
I used their "dual function" little jammie (technical term, sorry) to make the red brake and tail lights, and after the sticky tape failed to stick to the rhino lined tail piece I just broke out the crazy glue.
I also run a Signal Dynamics "Back Up XP" in line with the brake light to make the light flash during braking.
Really bright and visible day and night while still being low key when off.

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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #106 on: May 07, 2009, 10:10:17 am »
That's what I'm talking about.  That thing is looking mean...
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #107 on: May 11, 2009, 11:22:16 pm »
How did you prep/paint the wheels?
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #108 on: May 12, 2009, 06:13:19 am »
How did you prep/paint the wheels?
I am pretty sure I did a whole thread on wheel paint and prep, try the search as I am lazy.
Here is the short version that I can remember:

clean em good (steel/brass wool, simple green, toothbrushes, elbow grease)
scotchbrite from coarse to medium
clean em again, and use paint prep spray
apply Self Etching Primer (it's greenish and stinks) I used Duplicolor, 2 rounds of 2 coats with a day to dry between
paint prep spray/dust em off before color coat
2-3 good coats of Duplicolor engine spray paint
give it a day or 2 and check for missed/thin spots, or give it another coat or 2 for kicks
dry dry dry a day or 2
I top coated this all with Duplicolor's special wheel clearcoat and it is tough as nails still...
a few scratches an marks on the nipples from tensioning and trueing the wheel every so often, but otherwise still looking good.
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #109 on: May 12, 2009, 06:37:47 am »
thought about it...
I don't want to change forks after all the work I put into them, and I am pretty sure I can't bolt on another stock disc and caliper to the right side (could be wrong on that though). EBC disc is first upgrade on the list w/ SS braided lines and that should do the trick. If not, I revisit the dual disc option I guess.

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I sponsored a thread on this some time back and here's some interesting conclusions. THe total braking force is determined by the master cylinder. It will push so many PSI and that's that. Whether you have 1 disc or 2 will not increase the 1 time stop only power. Having additional components spreads the available PSI out over more pad surface, so you reduce wear, heat, fading, fork flexing, increase symmetry etc.  The respondents to my thread confirmed this with lots of engineering equations which went way over my head.

In reverse, which was the question I had posed, if you have 2 solid discs, why doesn't drilling buku holes in them decrease total braking force? It does not because the MC PSI didn't change.You have less surface area to distribute PSI, so pad wear will increase.  But the MC output was the same and the output doesn't disappear just because you drill holes in the discs. It just concentrates on less surface area.

So back to you (and me for my next project) if you maximize the ability of one rotor, you may have good results. SS lines, good pads, upgrade the rotor, maybe treat it cryogenically. Install a fork brace for the fork flexing issue. If you're running a 4 hour endurance race on a track, you'll melt one rotor into oblivion. 2 are needed, with multi piston calipers. But not for stopping force, for the other issues of endurance.  For occasional hard stopping, one really good disc should be fine.

But the point is, you won't increase absolute stopping power by the dual disc setup, unless you increase the output of the MC.  Messing with MC output has problems of its own with feel, progressivity, etc.
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #110 on: May 12, 2009, 07:05:37 am »
MCRider, your information has enlightened me.
everything I say is pure speculation and
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2009, 07:15:24 am »
that was a great thread and good info MC.
I have a fork brace en route and when I can spare the $$$ next up is the SS line, and soon after EBC rotor. I have had to bleed my front brake a few times in the last few months, so the stock line has seen better days. I have also ordered a new Banjo bolt w/ brake switch and new washers that I will install untill I can work out the SS line.
Bike goes great
stops fairly
and charges for #$%*.
Hopefully the charging issues will be sorted soon, priority's ya know.
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #112 on: May 12, 2009, 07:23:12 am »
MCRider, your information has enlightened me.

I just asked the question: "why don't holes in the disc decrease stopping power?" Other people on the forum supplied the info. and as mentioned, in much technical depth.
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #113 on: May 12, 2009, 07:33:45 am »
I think I read it.
everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #114 on: May 12, 2009, 11:43:53 am »
what's all this smart talk?
aint ya gonna tell me how totally RAD my bike is, or ask me a question I answered 3 pages back in depth?
Geez Louise don't you boys know what this forum is for?



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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #115 on: May 12, 2009, 11:54:58 am »
beep boop YOUR BIKE IS RAAAD, beep boop beep.

everything I say is pure speculation and
I have no idea what I'm talking about  ._.


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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #116 on: May 12, 2009, 11:55:30 am »
what's all this smart talk?
aint ya gonna tell me how totally RAD my bike is, or ask me a question I answered 3 pages back in depth?
Geez Louise don't you boys know what this forum is for?



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Oh yeah, all that.

What kind of paint did you use on your gas tank?   ;)
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 2/15/09)
« Reply #117 on: June 04, 2009, 06:46:18 am »
What if it  does not because the MC PSI didn't change.You have less surface area to distribute PSI?


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I think that's what I'm saying in esence. The total force doesn't change. Its just concentrated on a smaller area.

The variable is pad wear, which will go up.
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 2/15/09)
« Reply #118 on: June 04, 2009, 07:04:11 am »
What if it  does not because the MC PSI didn't change.You have less surface area to distribute PSI?


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who the fu<k is this guy? posting ads again?!!

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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 2/15/09)
« Reply #119 on: June 04, 2009, 08:30:49 am »
What if it  does not because the MC PSI didn't change.You have less surface area to distribute PSI?


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the ad thing is wack, but I don't think it is a complete spam post , dude made a valid technical comment.

Back to the point of this thread, my bike :)

She is running like a champ, and is scarily close to "DONE" ie I have run out of things to F with, aside from re-lacing the rear wheel (though if a chunk of $$ mysteriously landed in my hands it would be time for some 17" Akront or Borannis rims front and rear and custom spokes for the front too, so I can run sticky new Pirellis or similar, and be total Street Fighter, but I digress....).
Shame it looks like my new gig of head master of Drewfus Daycare will keep my road time to the minimum until school starts up again in September.

Project NEXT is rebuilding and hot rodding the new to me final revision K8 motor I have with the wiped cam, which should keep me broke and busy in the garage until winter, when it will migrate into this bike, and the current motor gets a massage and I find/build a new roller for it... Maybe chop/bobber, maybe crazy hybrid AHMRA full on racer, maybe who the F knows  ::)
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod 2010 update
« Reply #120 on: January 20, 2010, 10:07:59 am »
winter is here and it's time to get some grease all up under my nails again.

winter projects:
real braided oil lines (if nobody makes 'em I having them done custom)
re-spoking the back wheel (I am up to 4 broken spokes)
braided front brake line
fab a nice quick release set up for my chopped down fairing
the usual yearly carb tweaking etc


hmmm... I am sure there will be more
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod 2010 update
« Reply #121 on: January 20, 2010, 10:30:07 am »
winter is here and it's time to get some grease all up under my nails again.

winter projects:
real braided oil lines (if nobody makes 'em I having them done custom)
re-spoking the back wheel (I am up to 4 broken spokes)
braided front brake line
fab a nice quick release set up for my chopped down fairing
the usual yearly carb tweaking etc


hmmm... I am sure there will be more
Members Soichiro and counterpart Ricky_Racer of ClassicCycleCity.com have S braided oil lines, I bot some.

Someone else in the "parts for Sale" section makes braided brake line.
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #122 on: January 20, 2010, 10:38:56 am »
Right on man!  Keep it coming... I love the engine paint color!  And everything else.  Great bike... a good inspiration for my K8'a'thon!
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod 2010 update
« Reply #123 on: January 20, 2010, 11:31:41 am »

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Members Soichiro and counterpart Ricky_Racer of ClassicCycleCity.com have S braided oil lines, I bot some.

Someone else in the "parts for Sale" section makes braided brake line.
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thanx MC, I will get w/ the ClassicCycleCity.com crew for my oil lines. Pampadouri is doing brake lines, but doesn't have a 78k line he can duplicate and I wanna keep all my parts within reach right now in case a nice day comes along and I get the itch to ride.
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Re: 1978 CB 750K CafeHooliganRod (new pix 4/29/09)
« Reply #124 on: January 21, 2010, 04:51:18 am »
Hey man!  I sent Pampadori my 78K original front brake line a while ago (month or 2??) to replicate....and this is what I got back!
So he should be able to do the K8 now....maybe PM him.
Cheers!