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Re: K2 750 cafe' running out of time.
« Reply #75 on: April 10, 2009, 09:31:52 AM »
I'm running out of time here, I am going to have to put this thing together as is and copper plate one peice at a time. This sucks, I have to be riding before may 11th.

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Re: K2 750 cafe' running out of time.
« Reply #76 on: April 10, 2009, 07:27:07 PM »
Join the club, my wiring is currently held in with zip ties until I get my new compartment built just so I can ride in between rain drops. ;D

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Re: K2 750 cafe' Real home grown copper plating pictures finaly.
« Reply #77 on: April 10, 2009, 09:21:41 PM »
Sorry Havoc,

Aluminum is very reactive with the first solution, It dissolves it and creates hydrogen gas, also sulfuric and hydrochloric acid will dissolve the aluminum so I don't think it would be a good idea to use my solution for plating valve covers as it has to be in the first solution for about 30 minutes and the second for about 3 hours. There would be nothing left to call a valve cover. But your local plating shop could probably do that, they have all the closely guarded secrets.

Aluminum in a caustic soda (lye) solution, this is the first bath I would use to plate steel or nickle.

Lye reacts with,

   Aluminum
   Magnesium
   Zinc
   Tin
   Chromium
   Brass
   Bronze

To create hydrogen, in the process it dissolves the metal. Some it takes longer then others, the electricity speeds up the process.
 


For aluminum you want to anodize it.  It is a very similar process and can be done at home.  I have an article detailing this in a boatbuilding magazine but it is buried at the moment.  It works the same way, a sulfuric acid bath, DC current and a piece of scrape aluminum for the cathode.  The neat thing is the oxide coating is porous till it is heated and can be colored using regular clothing dye in a solution at a low temp, around 140 degrees.    Afterward the part is sealed at a higher temp, around 180 degrees.  You can also get dyes specifically for anodizing though I am sure they cost more.  All the details can easily be found on the web, I am just remembering this from reading the article many years ago.

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Re: K2 750 cafe' Wow Copper clubmans at last!!!!
« Reply #78 on: April 11, 2009, 11:25:12 PM »
So Krixxer gave me a list of stuff to try, some of which I am not capable of at this time and some that I was. So thanks to some great advice from Krixxer (Thanks), here is the end result on the clubmans. And to think I was on the brink of givving up on the copper plating until winter comes again..... patiance I just needed some patiance and to give it another try.


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Re: K2 750 cafe' Wow Copper clubmans at last!!!!
« Reply #79 on: April 12, 2009, 07:35:08 AM »
Those turned out Great Brain!  I can only imagine how frustrating it can be, but with results like that  :o

Keep at it, you'll get it.

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Re: K2 750 cafe' Wow Copper clubmans at last!!!!
« Reply #80 on: April 12, 2009, 08:45:04 AM »
So Krixxer gave me a list of stuff to try, some of which I am not capable of at this time and some that I was. So thanks to some great advice from Krixxer (Thanks), here is the end result on the clubmans. And to think I was on the brink of givving up on the copper plating until winter comes again..... patiance I just needed some patiance and to give it another try.



My Idea:
I Have a F3 with the black Motor. I Had Planned to get my Tank and every other chrome piece on my bike Copper plated this winter, Run Spoked wheels, Copper the rims and black the spokes with white walls. I called the plater with my tank at the last minute and changed my mind on the project and decided to go chrome on this bike and get my hands on another bike to do my "Black and Copper bike" The reasoning was that i didnt have the time or the money to get every thing copper'ed and clear coated before riding weather. I was also skeptical of how the  tank would look copper with all the other parts Chrome til i could get the money and time to finish it.
Surprisingly enough your bars look pretty good next to the tripple trees.
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Re: K2 750 cafe' Wow Copper clubmans at last!!!!
« Reply #81 on: April 12, 2009, 11:30:06 AM »
Nice job on those bars.... Seems like there's another build going on right now with a copper theme. Cool look.
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Re: K2 750 cafe' Wow Copper clubmans at last!!!!
« Reply #82 on: April 14, 2009, 03:02:41 PM »
SWEET!!!

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #83 on: April 14, 2009, 03:07:49 PM »
Disaster strikes!!!


The beginning


Something is not right!




Anyone want some corroded 33mm fork tubes?????????????????????????????

???What the EFF! ???

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #84 on: April 14, 2009, 10:31:58 PM »
Did you strip the chrome off them first??
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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #85 on: April 15, 2009, 08:22:03 AM »
Yeah! There's supposed to be copper under the nickle and the exposed steel is supposed to be platable. After about an hour and a half the caps were nicely plated but the tubes were grey, corroded an a lot smaller then the are supposed to be. Where the mickle stayed on the tubes there was a deep ridge and deep pits. It also looks like my solution is contaminated.

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #86 on: April 15, 2009, 08:29:13 AM »
Yeah! There's supposed to be copper under the nickle and the exposed steel is supposed to be platable. After about an hour and a half the caps were nicely plated but the tubes were grey, corroded an a lot smaller then the are supposed to be. Where the mickle stayed on the tubes there was a deep ridge and deep pits. It also looks like my solution is contaminated.

Damn dude I'm sorry.

I have a set of 750 forks if you need em. I'll trade you straight up for plating my risers??

Hope it works out for you.
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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #87 on: April 15, 2009, 08:34:27 AM »
Let me see if I can get the solution cleaned out and we'll make a deal

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #88 on: April 24, 2009, 12:06:09 AM »
Its 1:00am just got in from the garage, got the tank painted, handlebers shortend, controlls put on, mirrors on, swing arm painted, and installed. Pictures another day.

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #89 on: April 28, 2009, 04:41:16 PM »
Hi Billy, thought you may be interested in this...
http://alsacorp.com/products/ghostchrome/ghostchrome.htm

 have a look at the "copper" finish.

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #90 on: April 28, 2009, 07:03:55 PM »
Looks good, I have thought about doing that on the wheels. Thanks for the link! :)

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #91 on: April 29, 2009, 05:15:41 AM »
I have GSXR rims on my project and i am thinking of using the "mirror chrome on them, i was going to get them polished so it would save me having to polish the alloy all the time.

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #92 on: June 20, 2009, 12:52:45 PM »
Hey, a few people have pm'd me wondering where i'm at. I'm still here.


After a few trips with no seat... its very fast!

Some of you may remember a few months back when some doctors told me my hand wasn't broken, well they were wrong. I had surgery a few weeks ago and have not felt like typing on the computer all that much. The good news is I think it will be well enough to finish my seat next weekend... I hope.


It feel a lot better then it looks.

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2009, 08:53:27 AM »
I've been going through all the threads and rediscovered this one.  Why is Billy a "guest"?  Did he ever recover from his surgery?  Did he get a seat for his bike?  So many unanswered questions!
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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2009, 10:09:15 AM »
I think he's been on as 'billybob' since then...
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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2009, 04:34:22 PM »
thanks Kit!
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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #96 on: December 31, 2010, 09:35:10 AM »
Looks great  ;D

Skipped a few steps on the build log

just in case anyone cared...

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Re: K2 750 cafe' ????????? now without fork tubes
« Reply #97 on: December 31, 2010, 12:45:53 PM »
Nice, love the clubmans, they seemed to have turned out very nice.

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