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Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« on: May 13, 2009, 06:03:58 PM »
Although it is a little early to be certain, I may be able to arrange a trip in October 2009 from Birmingham Alabama to Phoenix Arizona to attend a conference.  It would provide a good opportunity to try to get an Iron Butt certificate or possibly two. 

I have checked the IBA web site (  http://www.ironbutt.com/ridecerts/getdocument.cfm?DocID=1 ) and can see making one or both:  SaddleSore 1000 and/or Bun Burner 1500.  Basically, you have to cover 1000 miles in 24 hours and/or 1500 miles in 36 hours. 

It appears to me that there would be several keys to doing this on a CB750.  First, ride a whole lot. ;D  Actually,
1.  tune it for good fuel mileage -ideally about 45 mpg at 70 mph cruise. 
2.  Try to average around 140 miles or about 2 hours per session between fill-ups.  There would be enough slack time for a gas-n-go if there is an expected section of the trip where it is risky to try to make it to 140 miles before fueling.

Has anyone tried this on a SOHC?  If so, successful or no?
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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 09:41:55 PM »
Easy if you have shocks and a normal seat..

I think I did it on my 750 Honda chopper at least once, I know that we went LA to well into Colorado one time..

Once you done one or two times, it  is not as big a deal as before you did it..
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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 11:30:07 PM »
Most I've done on my 750 is 800 miles by lonely myself.

Like 754 says, good suspension and seat are important. Not too heavy fork oil. Also anti inflammatory/pain meds like Ibuprofen might be a good idea but nothing that causes drowsiness. Another definite I'd use is some type of windshield so you don't get beat to death from wind, sand, rocks, bugs, rain, etc. I believe I'd plan on running a little faster in case your ass needs more than just gas and lunch stops. Get an early start too so you don't end up riding into the dark night.
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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 08:56:31 AM »
Actually I meant ANY suspension & ANY type of real padded seat..
 as opposed to the 2" slab of foam on the shockless rear end on my bike, that I rode to Bonneville.


Actually I think an overly comfortable ride , would just put me to sleep..sooner.. not later.
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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2009, 01:56:53 AM »
I've done the Saddle sore and have all the regalia ... ( junk they send after you prove it and pay the 40 bucks )...  Not on a sohc but on my 650 BMW...Not sure I'd do it again... but I understand the need... 

This last weekend I put 800 miles on my 550 Truckster... ( WindJammer w/saddlebags and a box )...  So I kind of dig long distance touring...  so here's some thoughts on what it is going to take to be comfortable...
 
3 foot peg positions... ( highwaybar with pegs )

Windscreen

Riding gear for your weather... to include nighttime...

Start your ride at night while you are Fresh...  Pack in Sleep up front... and remember your going to be a bit antsy when you sleep prior to the trip... so be VERY rested in the days prior...

Plan the trip at 80mph by the way...  I just planned this last trip at 65 and ended up running 80 most the way home..  ( had the wind at my back and frankly had to roll off lots of throttle to stay at 80 )....

Make sure your in Texas during the daytime... Speed limit is 65 at night 70 in the day time... keep in mind your going to be in Texas for a week that day... ( long straight roads with nothing but miles )....

Wear an Ipod or the like equivelent... seriously...  an older full face helmet will help keep the noise down... and Noise is fatiguing... and helmet comfort is a must... 

There is plenty of time in any of these to plan for naps or sleep and a rest stop bench works great...

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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 07:25:04 PM »
Almost have the bike ready for the trip. ;D  Leaving on the 9th of October, or a week from today.  The plan:
 to cover 1015 miles on the first day, which will put us around Vega/Hereford TX.
 Second day will take us to Flagstaff AZ, which is another 500 miles I think...  but we won't necessarily try to cover the 500 by the end of 36 hours.
Third day, to the Grand Canyon for some sight seeing, head down to Sedona for lunch and finally to Phoenix.

Will leave Phoenix one the following Thursday and head back home with about 1700 miles to cover in 3 days, but no specific plans on the route yet.

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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 10:19:55 PM »
I have been on the road and busy the first part of the week.  I wanted to report that we were able to make the iron butt distance.  Leaving Birmingham, Alabama about 5:30 AM on Friday and arriving in Vega, TX about 1:00 AM Saturday, we covered about 1020 miles in just a shade over 19 hours.  We covered about 1/2 of Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and about 2/3 the panhandle of Texas.  It rained on us from Memphis to the other side of Arkansas which slowed us down a bit.  Then it got pretty cold.  By the time we arrived in Vega, temps were hovering in the low 40's and high 30's.  

The temps the next morning were in the low 30s (record cold and a wintry mix forecasted for the day).  We hurried out to get ahead of the front and once underway, found ice forming on my mirror stalks from the drizzle that was falling.  The other guy had ice caking up on his windshield but I didn't have that problem  ;) since I wasn't running a fairing or windshield.  We did get out past the worst of the cold after we got into New Mexico, but all in all, this was a miserable day of riding due to the temperatures.  

All that night I felt like I had a fever.  In the morning, I wasn't sure that I could manage a 500 mile day, and considered going straight to Phoenix which would cause us to miss the Grand Canyon and the hills up near Flagstaff.  I went back to bed for another hour or so and started feeling better.  We got some breakfast and decided to stick with the original longer route.  I think the cold from the day before had worn me out more than I first thought.  But after the extra sleep, we had a fairly comfortable day riding.  The temps in the higher elevations were still pretty cool, but not like the previous day.  We were able to make it to Flagstaff for some lunch at a hole in the wall diner, then headed up for a quick jaunt throught the Canyon Park.  Nice scenery and comfortable weather.  

We spent more time than planned getting that far and the sun was going down by the time we left.  We decided to skip the Sedona route and head down I17 to Pheonex.  I17 is a very nice ride.  You reach elevations of 7000 feet or so but drop down to maybe 1500 by the time you get to Phoenix.  The road is curvy, smooth, and rarely level.  Good fun.  I think we did about 520 miles the third day.  

We leave Thursday heading back home.  I will try to post a trip report afterward.  

There is a .pdf map of our first day's ride attached.  

The motorcycle did great.  
« Last Edit: October 17, 2009, 09:03:08 PM by kpier883 »
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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 05:38:15 AM »
VERY Cool.... but now that you've done it.... would you recommend anyone do the Iron butt of any kind???

Somehow we all become entranced by the Goal and Spirit of being able to say we accomplished XXX.... and it's one of those questions I just have to ask...  Is the Juice worth the squeeze???   is Riding exhausted as a planned exercise smart???   And what did you pass worth seeing?

Please understand I'm not down playing the event itself.... riding a 1000 miles in a Day is a #$%* kitty...   So good on ya for getting it done...

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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2009, 12:14:50 PM »
Keith,

You raise some excellent points, and ones that are certainly valid for anyone considering this type of ride.

There are a couple of factors for my particular ride.  The sights I wanted to see were mostly after Texas heading West.  Not trying to diss the states I went through in a hurry, but I have spent some time in most of them before.  

Additionally, I was focused on using minimal vacation days.  Since I was headed to a conference in Phoenix that my job was paying for, the travel time is all that was extra and had to be paid for with vacation.  

Going the shortest route straight to the conference site in Phoenix is about 1700 miles.  Going out and coming back, we only want to spend three travel days (each way).  Fortunate for me, the conference starts on a Monday and ends on a Thursday.  That meant that I only use two vacation days (both Fridays).  The Thursday on which the conference ends would be a travel day for business purposes anyway.  

Now, as I said, the shortest distance to and from is about 1700 miles.  To cover it in three days, assume that I divided it equally, then I needed to cover almost 600 miles a day anyway.   However, I also wanted to add about 300 to 350 miles of detours into the trip - to see the Grand Canyon and some other things.  In the end, this meant we were really going to cover almost 2000 miles in three days.  Any way we sliced it, we had a lot of miles to cover.  It made sense to do 1000 on one day and about 500 the other two days.  By covering only 500 on each day in the Western part of the trip, we were able to enjoy the sights more and we were in the part of the trip where we had not traveled much before.  So the trip itself just gave me the opportunity to get the Iron Butt.

The goal led us to ride when we otherwise might have parked it when the weather was less than optimal (dismal actually).  

I am glad that we were able to succeed and I will enjoy having the badge/plaque.  Would I do it again?  No, at least not with the setup I had.  Picture attached.  One goal was to do this with the bare minimum of extras, hence, no fairing, no communications devices and no radio/music etc.  This was to be similar to how it would have been done when these bikes were new.  Standard seat, mostly standard parts.  The only modifications to the bike are the luggage rack, the vintage Shoei SB-4 bags, the dyna ignition and the Randakk's grips on the handlebars.  From a comfort point of view, a Honda ST-4 bend bar and the grips are the only upgrades.

If I was to try this again, I would probably try it with a KZ1000 Police bike with full fairing and enough electrical output to power some gadgets.  But for now, I have checked this off of my list of "hey it would be cool to _________".

Now for the ride back.  It begins tomorrow morning.  Early.

I will post some info on the return trip in a few days if all goes well.

Oh, you can't see it, but the sign in the background of the picture showed 40 degrees.  It was taken about 1:15 AM at the hotel when we arrived in Vega, TX after the first day of riding.

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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2009, 08:54:42 PM »
Back home.  I have to finish calculating, but I think we did about 3600 to 3800 miles in 6 days of riding.  The bike ran great, nothing broke, but it used a LOT of oil.  This might the the last big trip for this guy.  I carried 4 quarts of Delo 15w40 and couldn't find any more.  Had to start using what I could find.  Used 1 quart of Shell auto oil, one quart of Chevron (not delo), two quarts of Mystic 15w40, and had to add a quart of Kendall GT1 around Memphis.  It is probably a quart low now.  That is 9 quarts plus if it is low now, then 10 total.  I will pull the plugs in a day or so to see how they look.  No fouling occurred.  Couldn't see smoke behind me except when starting off and opening the throttle all the way at lower rpm, so that might have been fuel smoke.  Never a single drop under the bike in the morning, even after the 1000 mile day.  A fair amount leaked out around the head pucks, but not enough to drip over night.  Nothing dripped from the chain area, and I had the chain oiler cut all the way off.  Maybe it all blew away in the wind as it leaked off the fins.  However, I would think that 2.5 gallons would have made a giant mess all over my boots and lower pants leg if that is where it went.  It must have burned it, but it sure didn't smoke much, and it never fouled a plug.  Mysterious, but not too far out of line from what I expected - I was counting on a quart every 500 miles or so.  But it did use more coming back than going out.
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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2009, 08:07:57 AM »
Congrats on the Iron Butt...I won't even be considering that until I get a larger displacement fully faired bike. 1000 miles is 1600 kms and the most I have done on my CBR in a day is around 700-800 kms and DAMN was I sore after that!! Pulled off the highway and damn near dropped the bike at the light because my left foot didn't want to come down off the peg...My brother has 2 fully dressed HD's so we keep talking about going for a long ride together but knowing my brother talk is as close as we'll get.

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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2010, 03:24:53 PM »
Well good to see your home and well.... ( I also live in Alabama by the way...down here in Enterprise... by Ft Rucker )

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Re: Iron Butt 1000/1500 on CB750
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2010, 04:22:33 PM »
When i was in my 20's i did 1000 mile trips all the time. There are vast amounts of space between cities in Australia and this feat is more than common, and yes i did get a sore butt.... ;D I have done Brisbane to Sydney more than once in around 8 hours and that is around 700 miles,never had a fairing and had superbike bars on all trips.I will hopefully be going to Phillip Island for the superbikes next year and that is around 1200 miles one way, once again it will be on my Honda with superbike bars and no fairing.... ;D


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