Author Topic: Wheel bearing removal (yep, I searched) (Read 6796 times)

SKTP · « **on:** June 25, 2009, 06:43:30 PM »

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=53160.msg569767;topicseen#msg569767

The link above had good bearing removal instructions and tips (the only result from a search of 'bearing & bearings')...Here's the pictures of the bearings I am removing...I think I understand how the rear works (remove clip, push out the spacer) How about the front?

I looks like somebody mashed it up alittle in a previous bearing installation (nothing too bad). Do you just walk out the spacer as suggested in the above link like the rear?

Also, I'm getting these Lester mags powder coated...before I spend the mony on that...if any body can confirm these are Honda. I did take them by my mechanic. He seemed to think they would go on no problem...(1978 CB 750K) But you guys are the experts, any further info would really set my mind at ease...thanks SOHCers

Additional questions;

- will the powder coat interfere with the reinstalation of anything (plan on doing them 100% mat-black)?
- will I have to notch the speedo side for the speedo drive plate to work? (I still have my stock front wheel on the bike and have not seen the bare hub yet)
- I plan on using these wheels and I am ding a dual-disk MOD at the same time as I put them on

thanks again

Hush · « **Reply #1 on:** June 26, 2009, 12:18:40 AM »

I usually just whack them out with an old screwdriver from the opposite side, in saying that I've never seen a wheel with a spin-out thing like in your number 3 picture?
I've also never seen the much talked about Lester mags so what do I know.

SKTP · « **Reply #2 on:** June 30, 2009, 03:28:01 PM »

Just goign to ask one more time about that picture lable "Stock Brake side" I'm goign to try smackign that thing out of there...still wondering what the slots are for?

Johnny-5 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 30, 2009, 03:33:35 PM »

Quote from: SKTP on June 25, 2009, 06:43:30 PM

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=53160.msg569767;topicseen#msg569767

The link above had good bearing removal instructions and tips (the only result from a search of 'bearing & bearings')...Here's the pictures of the bearings I am removing...I think I understand how the rear works (remove clip, push out the spacer) How about the front?

I looks like somebody mashed it up alittle in a previous bearing installation (nothing too bad). Do you just walk out the spacer as suggested in the above link like the rear?

Also, I'm getting these Lester mags powder coated...before I spend the mony on that...if any body can confirm these are Honda. I did take them by my mechanic. He seemed to think they would go on no problem...(1978 CB 750K) But you guys are the experts, any further info would really set my mind at ease...thanks SOHCers

Additional questions;

- will the powder coat interfere with the reinstalation of anything (plan on doing them 100% mat-black)?
- will I have to notch the speedo side for the speedo drive plate to work? (I still have my stock front wheel on the bike and have not seen the bare hub yet)
- I plan on using these wheels and I am ding a dual-disk MOD at the same time as I put them on

thanks again

Picture one theres a clip make sure to take that off.
Last picture theres a tool to take that off but you can just wack it in the dirrection its supposed to come out or you can search and see some peoples hand made tools for removal.

Good Luck

SKTP · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2009, 04:26:49 PM »

Thanks....and I just thought of somethign else; Am I crazy to think the bears would be the same as my stock wheels?

I guess I have to get the out an measure them before orderign new ones....

rzmike · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2009, 05:06:45 PM »

Motion Pro makes the best wheel bearing removal tool. It uses a split collar that fits into the inner race, then a wedge that expands it. A couple of taps with a hammer and the bearing pops right out. They also sell a tool to remove the retainer, but they unscrew easily with a punch.

BobbyR · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2009, 06:04:31 PM »

Quote from: Johnny-5 on June 30, 2009, 03:33:35 PM

Quote from: SKTP on June 25, 2009, 06:43:30 PM
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=53160.msg569767;topicseen#msg569767

The link above had good bearing removal instructions and tips (the only result from a search of 'bearing & bearings')...Here's the pictures of the bearings I am removing...I think I understand how the rear works (remove clip, push out the spacer) How about the front?

I looks like somebody mashed it up alittle in a previous bearing installation (nothing too bad). Do you just walk out the spacer as suggested in the above link like the rear?

Also, I'm getting these Lester mags powder coated...before I spend the mony on that...if any body can confirm these are Honda. I did take them by my mechanic. He seemed to think they would go on no problem...(1978 CB 750K) But you guys are the experts, any further info would really set my mind at ease...thanks SOHCers

Additional questions;

- will the powder coat interfere with the reinstalation of anything (plan on doing them 100% mat-black)?
- will I have to notch the speedo side for the speedo drive plate to work? (I still have my stock front wheel on the bike and have not seen the bare hub yet)
- I plan on using these wheels and I am ding a dual-disk MOD at the same time as I put them on

thanks again

Picture one theres a clip make sure to take that off.
Last picture theres a tool to take that off but you can just wack it in the dirrection its supposed to come out or you can search and see some peoples hand made tools for removal.

Good Luck

I just did this on a stock wheel. You have to remove the circlip in picture 1. In picture 4 you will notice 3 dimples around the retainer, these are where the they spiked the retainer to keep it from turning out, they need to be drilled before you try to turn the retainer. Once you have the retainer out, heat the hub with a heat gun or carefully with a torch, take a piece of pipe and drive one bearing out and themn the other. I have tried it both ways and with the heat it took 3 whacks rather than 20. Put the new bearings in the freezer overnight center them and use the old bearing to drive the new one in place. Done

SKTP · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:10:54 PM »

WOW...no drilling required (not sure what you were talkign about?)...but after 3 hours of smacking, the destruction of various tools, the fabrication of the chisel smacker and multiplue hammer hits to the hand, the bearings are out and the rims are in great shape (bearings not so much)...thanks for all or feedback...going to the powdercoater this week...will post pics

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2009, 02:16:25 PM »

Quote from: SKTP on June 25, 2009, 06:43:30 PM

See that lock ring.... the indentations of those were usually smacked to keep them from backing out under vibration and loads.

That's what bobby meant.

BobbyR · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2009, 04:52:06 PM »

Thank you Havoc.

SKTP · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2009, 05:19:29 PM »

thanks guys

Bowswell · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2009, 06:23:11 PM »

Here my tool for bearing retainer...home made

SKTP · « **Reply #12 on:** July 15, 2009, 03:43:12 PM »

Ok here's the results...I'm thinkignj I really could have left them in. But I guess New Bearing can never be a bad thing, especially on 30 year out wheels...the bearings say;

6302 RS and 6304 RS

Are those standard bearing sizes for a 1978 CB750K? (I'll google around)

How important are the spacers? In Skateboarding we always throw them out...I think my reaar spacer is slightly wraped?

SKTP · « **Reply #13 on:** July 15, 2009, 07:25:46 PM »

Anybody try these bearings?

6302-2RS
http://www.oldbikebarn.com/Front-Wheel-Bearing-6302-2RS?sc=12&category=52302

6304-2RS
http://www.oldbikebarn.com/Rear-Wheel-Bearing-6304-2RS?sc=12&category=52302

My old ones do not say "2RS" is there anydifference?

I Zombie · « **Reply #14 on:** July 15, 2009, 08:36:45 PM »

the 2RS or 2RSJ stand for single seal on the bearing or both sides sealed

EverettShadowbrook · « **Reply #15 on:** July 15, 2009, 09:27:08 PM »

SKTP,

Removing those bearings wasn't easy! The whiskey was only part of the payment. I think you owe me that new tank strap you have sitting in your garage. Right? Hehe. Ortega Hwy this weekend. You in?

SKTP · « **Reply #16 on:** July 18, 2009, 10:20:21 AM »

Quote

All Balls Individual Wheel Bearing. developed in partnership with KML Bearing, Designed for the difficult operating environment of the power sports industry. The All Balls Bearing is a premium EMQ Quality, hi-speed bearing that feature slow-drag, double-lip, rubber seals that provide superior exclusion of water and dirt improved grease retention. Sold Each
Category:   Tires
Manufacturer:   All Balls
Fitment Location:   Front
Size:   15x42x13
Manufacture Model #:   6302-2RS

Quick question...was going to order today. Their phone lines are not open until Monday...when it says SOLD EACH does that mean per bearing (1) or per wheel (2)? I want to make sure I get the correct number in one shot. (the product shot shows 2, hence the confusion)

Thanks for any clairification....

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 20, 2009, 11:46:34 AM »

Are you buying for a 750? Or just the individual bearings?

You getting seals also?

I might be able to look up the All Balls kit and see what sizes they are.

lowmileage · « **Reply #18 on:** July 20, 2009, 01:54:52 PM »

Love the messed up workbench. Looks a lot like mine

.

SKTP · « **Reply #19 on:** July 20, 2009, 02:41:09 PM »

HavocTurbo

Quote

I'm an Underwear Skidmark Master

I am goign to get all balls; wheels and Headset and the seals...do you have any recommendations of what to buy?

HavocTurbo · « **Reply #20 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:13:05 PM »

Well I was offering to try to find a bearing kit for your wheels with the seals.

It seemed to me you were looking to buy the bearings seperate. I'm probably wrong.

Anyway just offering to help.

SKTP · « **Reply #21 on:** July 20, 2009, 03:16:42 PM »

Yes, that would be rad...

1978 CB 750K

thanks a million

boogieman · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2009, 09:46:02 AM »

I can't speak for the front, but my rear lester used stock cb750 bearings.

SKTP · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2009, 12:06:32 PM »

Yes, thanks everyone they are the same as stock...on that note; are bearings bearings?

Are these worth the extra money?
http://www.oldbikebarn.com/Front-Wheel-Bearing-6302-2RS?sc=12&category=52302

or should I just grab normal ones (example)
http://www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=2839

also, the 3rd bearign in the rear hub...I'm thinkign of just leavign that one after seeign all the bearing retainer-removal threads...how bad could that old bearing be?

BobbyR · « **Reply #24 on:** July 25, 2009, 12:48:07 PM »

Quote from: SKTP on July 25, 2009, 12:06:32 PM

Yes, thanks everyone they are the same as stock...on that note; are bearings bearings?

Are these worth the extra money?
http://www.oldbikebarn.com/Front-Wheel-Bearing-6302-2RS?sc=12&category=52302

or should I just grab normal ones (example)
http://www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=2839

also, the 3rd bearign in the rear hub...I'm thinkign of just leavign that one after seeign all the bearing retainer-removal threads...how bad could that old bearing be?

That third bearing is not that hard to remove and it will be as used as the other ones. In fact all the heat from the brakes goes there. Why 1/2 step it when it you can have a nice fully functional rear wheel you never have to worry about again.

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