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WASHINGTON - Guards hired by the State Department to protect diplomats and staff at the U.S. Embassy in Afghanistan live and work in a "Lord of the Flies" environment in which they are subjected to hazing and other inappropriate behavior by supervisors, a government oversight group charged Tuesday.

In a 10-page letter to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, the independent Project on Government Oversight contended the situation has led to a breakdown in morale and leadership that compromises security at the embassy in Kabul where nearly 1,000 U.S. diplomats, staff and Afghan nationals work.

In a statement on Wednesday, the U.S. Embassy said it was aware of the POGO report. "Nothing is more important to us than the safety and security of all Embassy personnel — Americans and Afghan — and respect for the cultural and religious values of all Afghans," the embassy said.

"We have taken immediate steps to review all local guard force policies and procedures and have taken all possible measures to ensure our security is sound. We will work closely with the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) to investigate the issues raised in this report, but cannot comment further on this ongoing investigation."
Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., on Tuesday called on the State Department to open an investigation into the performance and management of the contract with ArmorGroup North America. McCaskill, who chairs a Senate subcommittee on contracting oversight, said the new evidence calls into question the company's ability to provide adequate security at a key facility.

In a letter to Patrick Kennedy, the undersecretary of state for management, McCaskill also demanded a slew of documents related to the contract, including any department reviews of alleged misconduct by ArmorGroup employees.

The nonprofit group's findings are based on interviews with ArmorGroup guards, documents, photographs and e-mails that it says depict "Lord of the Flies" conditions. The reference is to the 1954 novel by William Golding about a group of British schoolboys who are stranded on a desert island and try, but fail, to govern themselves in a chaotic setting.

One e-mail from a guard describes lurid conditions at Camp Sullivan, the guards' quarters a few miles from the embassy. The message described scenes of abuse including guards and supervisors urinating on people and "threats and intimidation from those leaders participating in this activity."

Photographs show guards and supervisors in various stages of nudity at parties that took place near the housing of other supervisors.

Multiple guards say these conditions have created a "climate of fear and coercion." Those who refuse to participate are often ridiculed, humiliated or even fired, they contended.

ArmorGroup's management is aware of the conditions but has not stopped it or disciplined those responsible, the letter says. Two supervisors alleged to be the worst offenders have been allowed to resign and may now be working on other U.S. contracts, the group said.
Wackenhut Services, ArmorGroup North America's parent company, did not respond to a request for comment on the allegations.

State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters Tuesday that Clinton has been apprised of the allegations. The group also sent the letter to the State Department's inspector general, the independent Commission on Wartime Contracting and members of Congress.

"These are very serious allegations," Kelly said, adding that the State Department has been talking to the contractor about "addressing deficiencies in their performance."

The group's investigation found sleep-deprived guards regularly logging 14-hour days, language barriers that impair critical communications, and a failure by the State Department to hold the contractor accountable.

The State Department has been aware of ArmorGroup's shortcomings, the letter says, but hasn't done enough to correct the problems.

Performance deficiencies detailed
It cites a July 2007 warning from the department to ArmorGroup that detailed more than a dozen performance deficiencies, including too few guards and armored vehicles. Another "cure notice" was sent less than a year later, raising other problems and criticizing the contractor for failing to fix the prior ones.
In July 2008, however, the department extended the contract for another year, according to the notice. More problems surfaced and more warning notices followed. Yet during a congressional hearing on the contract in June, State Department officials said the prior shortcomings had been remedied and security at the embassy is effective.

The contract was renewed again through 2010.

Nearly two-thirds of the embassy guards are Gurkhas from Nepal and northern India who don't speak adequate English, a situation that creates communications breakdowns, the group says. Pantomime is often used to convey orders and instructions.
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Re: this just makes me proud to be an American.............................NOT
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 07:24:00 AM »
Wars precipitated by corporations... what do you expect?
I wonder when our first privately funded and fought war will happen.

But, Gee...  profits are booming!  :P
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 08:01:03 AM »
i am so impressed by my government sometimes
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 08:45:21 AM »
Funny, I just read this same article a few minutes ago in my local paper.  Who would hire a company named Wackenhut for security services? ;D

Dukie has a good point.  As we see more and more private security companies war becomes even more about the bottom line.  How soon before they start dropping the minimum requirements for "recruits" to keep the labor costs down and profits up?

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 10:02:56 AM »
Wasn't there several sci-fi stories that addressed that posibility of private wars ?
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2009, 10:51:17 AM »
Possiblility?

It will happen, just give them a little more time to convince the sheep that corporate mercenary wars are a necessary evil.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2009, 04:27:55 PM »
why does this surprise you? To many folks have had their damn heads in the sand for to damn long.

    "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."[26]  Major General Smedley Butler

(Known as the fighting Quaker, awarded numerous medals for heroism including the Marine Corps Brevet Medal (the highest Marine medal at its time for officers), and subsequently the Medal of Honor twice. Notably, he is one of only 19 people to be twice awarded the Medal of Honor, and one of only three to be awarded a Marine Corps Brevet Medal and a Medal of Honor, and the only person to be awarded a Marine Corps Brevet Medal and a Medal of Honor for two different actions.)

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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 04:58:58 PM »
He bucked that trend though when he ratted all those industrialists out when they planned a coup de etat on the US before WWII.

I guess at a certain point he said enough is enough, you guys are just a bunch of rich bullies.
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2009, 06:57:18 AM »
Which is why every once in a while Canadians get twitchy R/M and Dukie and gaze askance at our southern neighbors.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 04:29:43 PM »
Which is why every once in a while Canadians get twitchy R/M and Dukie and gaze askance at our southern neighbors.
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Yeah, you guys do have a lot of oil in those tar sands up in Alberta.  Better watch your back if we get another republitard for President sometime in the future. You're not hidin' any WMD's up there are ya? ;D ;D
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 04:04:59 AM »
No Srust, no wmd just fresh water and other assorted goodies.
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2009, 06:02:34 AM »
We've got a #$%* load of unemployed we could send to war, some have been on welfare for decades. ;D
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2009, 02:56:30 PM »
Back during the 40s and 50s Reinhold Neibuhr (probably the greatest American political thinker - ever) was very clear that the US armed forces would become a tool of corporate America.  It would become the vanguard of ecomonic expansion.  Her wasn't wrong about anything else that I know of.
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Re: this just makes me proud to be an American.............................NOT
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2009, 08:51:04 AM »
Wars precipitated by corporations... what do you expect?
I wonder when our first privately funded and fought war will happen.

But, Gee...  profits are booming!  :P

Privately funded wars by corporations already happen....

Ever here of Executive Outcome?

Private Military Corporations have been around a long time.

Some are even licensed by the State department ala Blackwater

Its a $100 Billion dollar a year business.
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2009, 09:03:31 AM »
Back during the 40s and 50s Reinhold Neibuhr (probably the greatest American political thinker - ever) was very clear that the US armed forces would become a tool of corporate America.  It would become the vanguard of ecomonic expansion.  Her wasn't wrong about anything else that I know of.
I look at the future as rather onimous.

So did Eisenhower, ever read or watched his farewell address, pretty good omen of the things to come.
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