Author Topic: documenting my cb550 build (Read 48353 times)

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 29, 2005, 09:28:50 am »

I was wondering how PAULAGES beat the hell outta that tank , without cracking the paint ?
Must be a single stage/enamel paint job...

METALHEAD550--------->
I still have yet to deciede/pick out a seat for the scoot. With the HD front end being the newest idea, a cafe style seat
might look outta place , so I am gonna leave the beast of the aftermarket crap seat I have on their for now, untill I get the
front-end project squared away... Maybe a cafe-style pan on the back , with the HD front end will look good , not sure.
Need to do some photochoppin .

paulages · « **Reply #51 on:** December 29, 2005, 09:34:12 am »

those pictures come out a bit small on here, but if you look closely at the second two of the tank, you can see where the paint did indeed chip a little at the top edge.

cbjunkie · « **Reply #52 on:** December 31, 2005, 11:58:37 pm »

spent some time in the garage today - stripping the paint off my Ebay SS tank i discovered a lacework of rust holes along the bottom seam edges - will try to bondo and seal tank.

i hammered a couple knee dents in it - i'm pretty happy with the outcome - they are evenly placed and the shapes match - well enough you can't tell especially since you can't see both sides at once...

may bondo the leading edge of the indent - i should just sculpt a MFing tank from bondo and then KREEM the model. then i could use that as my new tank...

cbj...

paulages · « **Reply #53 on:** January 01, 2006, 02:18:39 pm »

are you gonna post some pictures, cbjunkie? it's pretty easy to do, huh? i also plan to coat the inside of the tank, not because it is rusty, but because i suspect that pounding the tank in could have weakened that weld along the bottom seam. i've heard that there are much better products than the kreem stuff. there have been some good posts on here about that. the boat stores have great stuff, usually much stronger than the stuff sold for bikes.

cbjunkie · « **Reply #54 on:** January 01, 2006, 07:56:01 pm »

yeah i will post some photos - i don't think i'll have it painted by tomorrow (that's what i'd hoped before finding the rust)

i have the really nice POR-15 de-ruster and tank sealing kit. that's what i was going to clean and seal the tank with - the problem is that the POR kit provides a chemical seal against rust, but what i need now is a physical barrier between what will be bondo and the gasoline.

there were chunks of rusted metal coming out of the thing...pretty dissapointing, but i think that if i treat the rust with acid, bondo the holes and seal it with the coating i will be able to use it...Believe me, i thought seriously about pitching the thing and looking for another tank - if i had any sense that's probably what i would do.

the metal work was easy - i never would have done it without your encouragement, but once i started it was not hard at all, just have to have the right touch and not try to go to fast...i sort of "nibbled" the edges with the hammer until the two side were pretty even and the edges lump free - it's not perfect, but i hit it with the flat black and it looks killer!

Faust · « **Reply #55 on:** January 01, 2006, 08:00:23 pm »

"i have the really nice POR-15 de-ruster and tank sealing kit. that's what i was going to clean and seal the tank with - the problem is that the POR kit provides a chemical seal against rust, but what i need now is a physical barrier between what will be bondo and the gasoline."

I would try the Caswell Plating kit. Says you can go right over rust. Maybe, but I emailed them to see if it would be a problem if I used acid first. No problem as long as it is neuteralized.

cbjunkie · « **Reply #56 on:** January 01, 2006, 08:14:22 pm »

i read their schtick.. i think i'll stick with what i've got - why drop another 40 on this tank - i could get a new one for what i've spent already...

TwoTired · « **Reply #57 on:** January 02, 2006, 12:08:26 am »

Quote from: cbjunkie on January 01, 2006, 07:56:01 pm

i have the really nice POR-15 de-ruster and tank sealing kit. that's what i was going to clean and seal the tank with - the problem is that the POR kit provides a chemical seal against rust, but what i need now is a physical barrier between what will be bondo and the gasoline.

I thought Bondo was fuel impervious.

Mix some up, let it cure, drop it in a small jar of gas. Check it next day. If it still looks like cured bondo, it should be okay.

cbjunkie · « **Reply #58 on:** January 02, 2006, 04:42:12 am »

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I thought Bondo was fuel impervious.

yeah, that's my question...i don't have any experience with bondo. if bondo is fuel impervious then yay!

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #59 on:** January 02, 2006, 08:02:08 pm »

CBJUNKIE---->
Let's see some pics of that tank of yours ? I was thinking about hammering some
knee dents in my tank , but it is too nice for me to screw it up. Bondo DOES NOT hold up to fuel, just so everyone
knows. I friend of mine used the stuff for some gas tank repairs , and his car caught on fire becasue of it...

JBWELD is much better for small fuel related fixes....

paulages · « **Reply #60 on:** January 02, 2006, 09:33:53 pm »

my tank work is on a slower timeline, but i almost finished my motor cleanup today. i'll post pics as soon as i get them. painted the block and cylinders, and am polishing all of the covers.

Faust · « **Reply #61 on:** January 03, 2006, 05:43:32 am »

Bondo is essentially epoxy resin with a filler, usuaully talcum powder. Since this is anhydrous, I prefer to use the brands with sintered metal filler such as "Metal to Metal".

The problem is that the epoxy resin will deteriorate in contact with gasoline. This can also be a problem with unlined fiberglass tanks.There are some epoxies that will withstand gas, that is what Caswell uses in their tank liner.

paulages · « **Reply #62 on:** January 07, 2006, 12:39:12 am »

well, my help for tonight all flaked on me, so i managed to drop my engine in myself. i imagine i'll be feeling it a bit tomorrow in the lower back, but it wasn't that terrible. here are some pictures of the engine cleaned up, painted, clearcoated, and covers polished. i still have some polishing to do, but at least i have the SOB in there. oh yeah, i posted some dirty before shots of the engine, but here's another anyway as a "before" for the "afters." oh yeah, and i installed the wiring harness yesterday, too.

GeoffT · « **Reply #63 on:** January 07, 2006, 03:09:51 am »

Paulages,

These pics are really great. Keep them coming. Your good work is really making me think about taking my engine out and giving it the once over. Maybe take me a few months to build up the courage. In the mean time I'll just have to carry on riding the bike.

Keep up the excellant work.

bill440cars · « **Reply #64 on:** January 07, 2006, 07:52:08 am »

Hey Paulages,

Good looking bike. You are doing a fantastic job on the detail. Your bike is already quite impressive, hard to imagine what the finished product will look like. I only hope , when I can get to it, that mine looks anywhere near as good. Gotte go for now, Bill

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #65 on:** January 07, 2006, 08:37:46 am »

Looking Good

jtb · « **Reply #66 on:** January 07, 2006, 10:04:56 am »

Hey Paulages,
Great work, inspiring, in fact. Keep the pictures coming.

John

cbjunkie · « **Reply #67 on:** January 10, 2006, 03:58:40 pm »

bump.

didn't want to start a new topic until i get my new SS tank from Cheapo - so i'm piggybacking the learning curve photos on paul's thread here...

this 75F tank i got off Ebay - when i stripped the paint off it was perforated...you can see the bondo - newbies, don't waste your time with this - i did it before i asked adequate questions here on the boards - wasted a good day trying to patch it - learn from my mistake!

anyway - on paul's advice i popped a coupla knee inserts in it - the next one will be even better.

paulages · « **Reply #68 on:** January 10, 2006, 05:01:48 pm »

looks great, CBJ! it's amazing how much that changes the look of a bike. can't wait to see the next one..

cbjunkie · « **Reply #69 on:** January 10, 2006, 05:36:13 pm »

it's sexy as hell...

what about you? i haven't heard a peep outta you in days...

paulages · « **Reply #70 on:** January 11, 2006, 12:38:35 am »

this bike is just one of many overwhelming projects i have going on. i have been at it though, but it's been all unglamorous activities. hooking all the small #$%* up, finding all of the motor mounts i so carefully labelled but don't seem to be anywhere around, routing wiring...i do plan to start carving up some foam soon to make my seatpan form. i'd like to paint it and the tank at the same time, so i want to have it ready. plus, the mechanical stuff is the easy part (making it run, sorting the brakes out, etc.). it's the bodywork that intimidates me.

GeoffT · « **Reply #71 on:** January 11, 2006, 01:41:33 am »

Quote from: paulages on January 11, 2006, 12:38:35 am

this bike is just one of many overwhelming projects i have going on. i have been at it though, but it's been all unglamorous activities. hooking all the small #$%* up, finding all of the motor mounts i so carefully labelled but don't seem to be anywhere around, routing wiring...i do plan to start carving up some foam soon to make my seatpan form. i'd like to paint it and the tank at the same time, so i want to have it ready. plus, the mechanical stuff is the easy part (making it run, sorting the brakes out, etc.). it's the bodywork that intimidates me.

The whole mechanical/bodywork thing intimidates me. Thats why I like the inspiration of seeing athers on this site doing it all. The more info the better.

Cheers,
Geoff

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #72 on:** January 11, 2006, 07:47:34 am »

CBJ---->
Good job on the knee inserts, look great.
I am sure , now that you have practice, the next one you do will be even better.
I almost took a dead-blow to my tank last night , but couldn't do it.

Not yet atleast

cbjunkie · « **Reply #73 on:** January 11, 2006, 07:53:39 am »

yeah well, i got "lucky" and ended up with a tank i wanted to run over with a semi- and then put through a meat grinder and then set on fire, so i didn't mind tapping on it with the hammer a few times.

pablo78cb550 · « **Reply #74 on:** January 16, 2006, 12:16:39 pm »

what color paint did you use for the engine cases? i was at pepboys this weekend and saw at least 3 options of high heat grey.

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