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Offline Ecosse

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How to lose an argument online
« on: January 06, 2010, 02:34:33 PM »
I recently discovered a blog about art and business, and found this. Just food for thought.  :)


How to lose an argument online


   1. Have an argument. Once you start an argument, not a discussion, you've already lost. Think about it: have you ever changed your mind because someone online started yelling at you? They might get you to shut up, but it's unlikely they've actually changed your opinion.

   2. Forget the pitfalls of Godwin's law. Any time you mention Hitler or even Communist China or Bill O'Reilly, you've lost.

   3. Use faulty analogies. If someone is trying to make a point about, say, health care, try to make an analogy to something conceptually unrelated, like the space shuttle program, and you've lost.

   4. Question motives. The best way to get someone annoyed and then have them ignore you is to bypass any thoughtful discussion of facts and instead question what's in it for the person on the other end. Make assumptions about their motivations and lose their respect.

   5. Act anonymously. What are the chances that heckled comments from the bleachers will have an impact?

   6. Threaten to take action in another venue. Insist that this will come back to haunt the other person. Guarantee you will spread the word or stop purchasing.

   7. Bring up the slippery slope. Actually, the slope isn't that slippery. People don't end up marrying dogs, becoming cannibals or harvesting organs because of changes in organization, technology or law.

   8. Go to the edges. This is a variant of the slippery slope, in which you bring up extremes at either end of whatever spectrum is being discussed.

So, what works?

Earn a reputation. Have a conversation. Ask questions. Describe possible outcomes of a point of view. Make connections. Give the other person the benefit of the doubt. Align objectives then describe a better outcome. Show up. Smile.



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Re: How to lose an argument online
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2010, 02:46:08 PM »
I've found these rules work, even in bars with drunks...

Wish I did not violate them from time to time, especially when I/m the drunk.

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Re: How to lose an argument online
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 01:14:48 PM »
Not to start an argument ;D but I think Godwin's Law is that the longer an online discussion/argument goes on the more likely it is that Hitler will be brought up.  That way it is perfectly ok to bring up Hitler in a discussion of who's your favorite dictator, Stalin or Hitler ;D but bringing him up in an argument about which Honda SOHC4 is the best is obviously a losing ploy. ;D

BTW do you ever read the comment section on political articles on the various news/blog websites.  These people should take these rules to heart.  Some real wackos but it can be entertaining to read.

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Re: How to lose an argument online
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 02:35:11 PM »
Not to start an argument ;D but I think Godwin's Law is that the longer an online discussion/argument goes on the more likely it is that Hitler will be brought up.  That way it is perfectly ok to bring up Hitler in a discussion of your favorite dictator, Stalin or Hitler ;D but bringing him up in an argument about which Honda SOHC4 is the best is obviously a losing ploy. ;D

BTW do you ever read the comment section on political articles on the various news/blog websites.  These people should take these rules to heart.  Some real wackos but it can be entertaining to read.



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Re: How to lose an argument online
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2010, 02:12:47 PM »
starting them is easy
ending them is alot more fun
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