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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 04:59:18 PM »
I vote ridiculous.

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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 05:04:03 PM »
"Carb Caps which have been faithfully reproduced to the originals."

............not even original?

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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 05:04:21 PM »
who is paying this kind of money for this stuff, i think ridiculous is putting it mildly.
or maybe im just dumb . . .

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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 05:53:20 PM »
Well he said "sandcast" so I will bid a ridicules amount of money.      ;D ;D
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 06:26:37 PM »
who in #$%*ing hell is going to spend that kind of money for carb tops? i dont have much more into parts on my k4 750, on the ENTIRE motorcycle
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 07:25:03 PM »
There is an add for them thats been in the parts section on this forum for quite awhile.  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=66173.0

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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2010, 07:46:49 PM »
Hey guys I have a special edition 1975 750F SANDCAST engine for sale.

I'll start the bidding at 18 million dollars.  ;D
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2010, 08:06:33 PM »
i vote we off the people that sell stuff for that much.... makes just gettting parts harder as people think their sh*ts worth gold and charge up the A**!!!!! thats just plain ridiculous!!!!!!!

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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2010, 08:46:15 PM »
Well getting stuff cast is pretty expensive, and that cable looks like a one-off too, not to mention the rubbers, so, as expensive as it might seem, he's helping out K0 guys who can't buy that "unobtainium" to finish off their restorations, and he's probably not making a lot of money on it. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2010, 08:58:33 PM »
If it looks like a one off, who would want it?
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2010, 09:54:45 PM »
People whine if they cant get it anymore, and they whine if someone makes it again..

 I looked at these parts, it appears to me that they actually built the dies to diecast these parts.. a Very Expensive undertaking.... did I mention pricey..

 I dont know if they will make money on this, but I am pretty sure they want to get their invested money back..

 Some of you are comparing bikes people abandon, give away, leave laying around.. to the much rarer early ones.. a world of difference there..  a bit like comparing a 78 Camaro to a 69 Z with a 302...... JMO...
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2010, 10:51:41 PM »
I think this just proves that the sandcastonly types are out of their skulls  ;D

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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2010, 02:05:25 AM »
If it looks like a one off, who would want it?

Pretty much anyone with a K0 mate, my throttle cable assembly is just about shot, so I might need to buy one. Sure, it's not cheap, but if it's the only thing between my bike being rideable, or just sitting like a statue of a bike, I'll find the money.

It's not about Sandcast/K0 "snobbery", but rather, about one enthusiast going "above and beyond the call" and investing his own money to keep his bike on the road, and in attempting to recover some of his investment, the greater benefit is that he's helping us early CB750 owners keep our bikes working like they were designed to, and looking original.

It'd be great if Honda still made this stuff, but they don't, so it's nice to have an option like this. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2010, 06:03:41 AM »
I agree Terry.  Some guys should be happy that they're lucky enough not to own a sandcast.  It is a curse. 
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2010, 07:13:06 AM »
If it looks like a one off, who would want it?

Pretty much anyone with a K0 mate, my throttle cable assembly is just about shot, so I might need to buy one. Sure, it's not cheap, but if it's the only thing between my bike being rideable, or just sitting like a statue of a bike, I'll find the money.

It's not about Sandcast/K0 "snobbery", but rather, about one enthusiast going "above and beyond the call" and investing his own money to keep his bike on the road, and in attempting to recover some of his investment, the greater benefit is that he's helping us early CB750 owners keep our bikes working like they were designed to, and looking original.

It'd be great if Honda still made this stuff, but they don't, so it's nice to have an option like this. Cheers, Terry. ;D


I agree with you Terry but the price does seem pretty high.  He might do better recouping his investment by lowering the price and selling more volume.  But then, what do I know, I've never had custom parts cast from scratch and I have no idea how much it all costs.

Parts look nice though, seems like a good reproduction.

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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2010, 08:26:03 AM »
Yeah, I am down to only a couple 4-1 throttle cables left, myself..

 These bits the guy is selling are not for all the sandcast and K0's.. they are only for the earlier ones..  (guessing ).. first 1500 or less, divide that by 20, then only some of those may need them... not a lot of folks that need that stuff to be correct..
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2010, 08:46:15 AM »
I recall an original set of "28" tops, 5 mm cables, slides (I think) and springs going for over $700 on Ebay not long ago. The seller then tried to sell the rest of carbs.
The sellers may be asking huge amounts for true, rare sandcast items, the fact is they are often getting it from enthusiasts. Sure, it may ridiculous to some but why rain on someone's passion? Is it your own elitism? ::)
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2010, 01:39:24 PM »
ridiculous?  Yes.

But, a sandcast is a different animal.  Ultra rare, and need to be restored to 100% stock, with all items correct.  If not your thing, then it is best to sell it, and buy a CLEAN K2 or K3, etc.

At one time, I owned a 409 Impala that was factory stock with 49,000 original miels.  Same deal....it become a real pain keeping everything 100% factory correct.

To the guy who is finishing up his sandcast restoration...a bike that can go for $20,000....this part is necessary.

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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2010, 02:20:59 PM »
754,
I don't mean to step on your toes but I thought those caps and cables were recalled with Honda Service Bulletin #15 because of the possiblity of sticking throttle (maybe Toyota is using them).  That would be up to number 17342 which would include all of the sandcasts and early diecasts.  I'm not sure why someone would want to revert to the original if it had a problem.  And one could make the argument than since it was repaced on a recall that it is as original as it has to be.
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2010, 02:57:27 PM »
Hi gang.The replacement throttle parts were indeed used on some diecasts.My '70 that was purchased in April of that year had the recall parts installed shortly after I got the bike.Wish I had grabbed the old stuff.Could use the dough!   Rock On
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« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2010, 07:26:23 PM »
Sure its original, but its not showroom condition restored..

 An early sandcast with the wrong carb tops and a finned oil filter.. oohhh that will cost points..

 Thats the problem with resto work, the parts recalled or tossed are the hardest and most pricey to find.
 I  am not sure how many bike those tops fit but if it is 17,000 that is a lot... I thought it was more of a deal like the long choke lever or the smooth filter part..

 Hate to see what an early crank, changed at 2**, or  cases go for..
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Re: Is this getting ridiculous or what?
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2010, 08:11:37 PM »
The old saying is "if you want to play you have to pay".Like any early antique the rewards are good if you find it first,but the parts are not that bad also/ so keep your eye open  ;)

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2010, 05:04:54 PM »
Yep, my January 1970 build diecast (still) has the smaller cables, although I bought the carbs from a member here, as my bike was stripped of most of the "unobtainium" parts before I got it. I just sold another set of those carbs with the same tops for $152.50, bugger.............  :P

I bought a K0 rear hub offa EBay a couple of weeks ago, by the time it arrived here it cost me almost 200 bucks, but I was 'rapt to have a genuine rear hub, then yesterday when I collected some Henry Abe wheels from Canberra, I picked up a complete K0 rear wheel with an ancient Dunlop tire for 20 bucks............. Anyone wanna buy a really good K0 rear hub? ;D
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