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Old Laptop Rescue.. maybe :o(
« on: April 21, 2010, 02:17:40 PM »
This is sort of a continuation of my saga to try and revive an old laptop (Thinkpad) in an attempt to install and learn Linux, primarily to connect to our wireless router, which I'm beginning to believe is a myth.  ;D Aside from that, I have actually installed and played with several distros. The one I ultimately liked best was Mandriva using KDE, primarily because it handled the video correctly with respect to aspect ratio. Other distros seemed to wrap the screen vertically, a bit of a nuisance to say the least.

Anyway, I was trying to use a PCI card adapter for the wireless and it entailed downloading drivers in the form of a tar file. No problem, got the file and transferred it to the laptop via a USB drive. Moved the file as Root to proper place and attempted to process it. The disk drive light starts its thing (I'm doing something else on the desktop system while waiting). After a couple of minutes, I notice the disk light is still active. Hmm? More time goes by and now I'm beginning to think something is amiss. I let run a l-o-n-g time and nothing. I couldn't get control back no matter what I tried. I finally just cut the power.

Now, I can't reboot. Even with a distro CD with all the upfront disk handling functions won't recognize the drive. If I attempt to boot from the HD I get a message there is no OS. I've also gotten messages about the MBR not found. I've tried some very basic disk access and manipulation software, but getting no place. Any suggestions as to how to address getting this HD back to at least being recognized?
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Re: Old Laptop Rescue.. maybe :o(
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 02:29:50 PM »
Yow, Bob, you have the worsterest luck so far with that laptop and linux...

Are you saying the install CD doesn't see the drive?

Download the gparted ISO, boot off it, and see if it sees the drive, and what it says about it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 02:50:30 PM »
Yup, found the Gparted software long ago.  :D No dice. After it scrolls many lines, most not relevant to my problem, it gets to;
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List all partitions:
No filesystem could mount root, tried:
Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(253,0)


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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2010, 02:55:27 PM »
Sounds like HD failure to me...
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2010, 02:58:34 PM »
Sounds like HD failure to me...

You mean physically/mechanically, perhaps fried?
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2010, 03:00:36 PM »
Maybe.

I'm surprised gparted wont start up. Never gets to GUI?
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2010, 03:41:49 PM »
Update.

In case it was a fried or otherwise bad HD, I swapped it out (it is a 40GB) with a 10GB I had around. Same result. For the heck of it, I put in the DBan Boot and Nuke CD. After the "loading" message followed by "ready" I get;

Uncompressing Linux (had tried a small Linux distro on this one some time ago)
invalid compressed format (err=2)
-- System halted

It seems unlikely it is the HD alone since both the 40GB and the 10GB seem to be telling me pretty much the same thing.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2010, 04:07:31 PM »
Dban is linux based, so the issue is decompressing the kernel to run the linux-based apps in memory.

Run a memory test off the ubuntu CD or somesuch.
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 05:36:17 PM »
Dban is linux based, so the issue is decompressing the kernel to run the linux-based apps in memory.

Run a memory test off the ubuntu CD or somesuch.

I ran the mem tests successfully right after identifying I had some sort of HD problem and it always seems to check out OK with the corresponding amount of mem installed. What does that tell me?
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Re: Old Laptop Rescue.. maybe :o(
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 05:54:06 PM »
If you want a new Thinkpad or a pre owned newer model I can hook you up.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 08:26:45 PM »
Dban is linux based, so the issue is decompressing the kernel to run the linux-based apps in memory.

Run a memory test off the ubuntu CD or somesuch.

I ran the mem tests successfully right after identifying I had some sort of HD problem and it always seems to check out OK with the corresponding amount of mem installed. What does that tell me?

I'm not sure... I kinda need it in front of me. Sounds like hardware issue... southbridge, something...
Honestly, I'm about to send you a laptop with WiFi running ubuntu just to get you started :P
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2010, 03:08:36 AM »
I'm thinking something got fried somehow with that extended disk activity. Though somewhat convinced Wireless via Linux is a  hoax  ;D I will try to keep going only because I can faintly hear Bill Gates laughing and mocking me at my attempts to break the surly bonds of Windows.  >:( If someone has a useable laptop (old, cheap) I would be interested.  ;)
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