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Re: To all you fabricators: Oxy-Acetylene?
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2010, 08:14:51 PM »
maasey.. a studspotter/slide hammer can be your friend..

 let me say this, there is a few DIFFERENT welding processes, and they ALL have their place.. pick what works/fits you (your budget)...most comfortably..
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Re: To all you fabricators: Oxy-Acetylene?
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2010, 10:05:23 PM »
maasey.. a studspotter/slide hammer can be your friend..

This dent was so ridiculous.  A $15 side hammer and an hour of my pops' time and expertise is all it needed.  Too bad we ran out of gas at the end which makes wearing a t-shirt and no gloves so stupid.  The molten hot brass popping and spitting and my dad telling me to hold the tank still.  Priceless. 
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Re: To all you fabricators: Oxy-Acetylene?
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2010, 07:12:15 AM »
MIG is only good for mig WELDING.
MMA (stick) is only good for stick WELDING.

OXY- ACETYLENE is good for WELDING, BRAZING,CUTTING,ANEALING,HEATING UP SIEZED NUTS & BOLTS, and loads of other uses around the workshop.

To aneal aluminium, use a large size tip and a soft flame (IE neutral flame, equal amounts of both gases), take a small piece of soft pine, a match will do, heat up the item but keep the flame moving IE. do not concentrate on any one area for too long, keep checking the temperature with the match (not the red end ::)) at first the match will leave no mark but as the heat builds up it will leave a light brown streak, as the job gets hotter the match will leave a dark brown streak and act as though you were writing on it with a felt tip pen,it has now reached anealing temp.
Take away the heat and allow to cool or quench in water (yes ,quench in water) and your item (usually head gaskets) is anealed.

For copper gaskets , just heat to a dull red and allow to cool, personaly I quench them in water as it cleans off the oxide/scale.

Aluminium can be welded with oxy-acet, but it is quite messy compared to TIG, as any flux left behind needs to be washed well off as it is quite acidic.

I get quite a few people asking me why they can't weld aluminium with their TIG set that they have just invested in, usually it's a case of wrong type, it must be an AC/DC TIG set.
Most TIG sets are DC only.

Set machine to AC
Switch on high frequency to CONTINUOUS mode
Most important is to clean off all oxide (even on almost new ally) as the oxide has approx. 3 times the melting temp of the oxide, so by the time you melt the oxide, the aluminium inside has already boiled,dropped out the bottom, and produced a mess on your workshop floor.
Hope this helps. ;)

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Re: To all you fabricators: Oxy-Acetylene?
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2010, 07:21:26 AM »
I am leaning toward a 110volt Mig set up with shielding gas for best all-around project use.  The Hobart Handler 140, at $477, seems to be about the best deal out there at the moment, but also looking at Lincoln Weld Pak 140.  Hobart is owned by Miller and made in the U.S.  The cheaper Lincolns are built in Mexico. 

OR....  I may just hold off and quit obsessing over it!

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Re: To all you fabricators: Oxy-Acetylene?
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2010, 08:11:22 AM »
OOPs! COCK-UP ALERT

last paragraph should  read 'melting temp of oxide is approx 3 times greater than that of the ALUMINIUM'.

Aluminium 660-690
Alu. oxide 2200-2300

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Re: To all you fabricators: Oxy-Acetylene?
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2010, 07:57:18 PM »
I bought a Hobart 140 last year and love it. It comes with the regulator and hose for gas. You can get the small c25 bottles at Home Depot for around $120 and then it's like $17 to refill.

I built a small welding cart (with I think is mandatory when you first buy a welder) but didn't use the gas. I did some welding on my K1 at a buddy's farm this winter using mig with gas and what a difference it makes, hardly any splatter.

To make my long story longer, I like the Hobart.

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Re: To all you fabricators: Oxy-Acetylene?
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2010, 10:00:45 PM »
oxy-acetelyne is fun, but takes lots of practice!!! its taken me a couple months to get good!! but you can do a lot with oxy-acetelyne!!!you can weld just about anything with it!!!