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Offline asom

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removing Honda tags from tank...
« on: May 06, 2010, 08:36:30 AM »
or should I say, not removing.  How do these things come off?  I don't want to damage them, and I need paint.  While on the cosmetic tip...do you fine people have any links to share for reasonably priced side covers?  And, is there a thread regarding best paint to use that is available with a relative amount of ease?

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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 09:12:05 AM »
Depends on the bike.  I think some tank badges are held on with small screws, but most are just clipped on.  A butter knife or small putty knife works well for those.  Just go slowly and don't apply too much leverage to any one spot at one time. 

Look in the FAQ for the "Paint and Bodywork" section.  A lot of good info there. 

As for paint, it depends on what type of paint you want to use, and what kind of equipment you either already own or are willing to purchase.  Paint jobs range from the cheapest rattle-can paint to urethane-based coatings you mix yourself and spray with a gun and air compressor.  Many people have done some great paint jobs with cheap rattle-cans, but it's not going to be fuel resistant unless you cover it with a hardened clear-coat.  Many people have done some #$%*ty paint jobs with the most expensive paint and equipment because they didn't take their time and didn't do the prep work correctly.  I haven't used it myself, but I've heard good things about the Tower Paint spray cans that include a chemical hardener in the can.  It's more expensive than regular rattle can, but less expensive than buying the equipment you'll need to do a spray gun finish if you don't already have it, and you end up with the same kind of finish that's fuel resistant.   

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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 10:03:45 AM »
thanks.  fyi it's a 78 CB750f.  I forget that everybody doesn't know that.
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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 11:03:37 AM »
should I leave the stock tank with original chipped pant and small dent and get another to paint custom?
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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 12:52:45 PM »
Doing that would probably be better for resale.  The original stuff is almost always worth more than resprayed.  People get nostalgic.
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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 02:56:41 PM »
Side cover link, got mine in about a week.

http://lpmreplicaparts.com/honda/CB750F2/sidep.html
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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 07:25:00 PM »
thanks for the link.  whats the difference between a f1 and f2?
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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 07:36:10 PM »
its amazing what you can do with some elbow grease and careful work.  I started with a '77 cb750 that had been sitting in a backyard for 14 years (but had under 10k miles).  Did a frame-up restore/customization that ended up taking 1.5 years, and started running low on funds by the end (victim of the recent times...).  I hand dented knee dents in the tank myself (took emblems off and filled), had a custom steel seat/tail done by Benji, and fabbed my own left side cover from sheet metal and help from local welding shop.  By paint time (last job) I was low on funds and decided to do it myself.

Talk to any body/paint shop and you will hear that prep is 90% of the job. I agree, but you can do it yourself on the cheap.  I made an ad-hoc spray booth in my garage (sheet plastic stapled up) and used rattle cans from local pro paint store. Dark grey primer, metallic charcoal "touch-up", and key is 2k clearcoat (this is resistant to gas).  This is a catalyzed clearcoat that you activate before use (24 hr use time).  The spray pattern is really good as well.  Ended up using 4 cans of the clear, which is $20 a can (2 each of other), as well as assortment of sand paper, polishing compounds etc.  Also got some vinyl decals to add - japanese kanji (honda on sides of tank where badges would go), 750 for left side cover, as well as some tribal designs for top of tank and tail (I know, maybe out of date but I like them and they compliment the kanji). Put them on the color before the clear, so they are on to stay.

Here are a few pics from my iphone- plan to take/post more with better camera.  Its not perfect, but pretty good.  Had to fix a couple of runs and other errors. A lot depends on if you want to keep stock, or customize.  Probably have about $200 total into the paint/prep for materials, and maybe 40-50 hours effort (much less for a pro).  Now I understand why the pros charge what they do.


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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 09:32:36 PM »
honestly, I don't have the skill to take it to that level.  really looks great.  I just want to get it running good and looking tough.  the scratches and dents got to go.  i'm definatly doing it myself.
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Offline david 750f

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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2010, 10:17:29 PM »
Asom, you need the F2 (77/78) side covers. F1's are for 75/76. The left sidecovers are different but the right sidecovers are the same.
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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 02:29:07 PM »
asom- if you want it looking tough, you might consider a flat black.  dents and scratches are easy to fill- just sand down with 220 grit and use bondo (just follow directions) to fill.  use as little as possible as it takes forever to sand it off. couple coats of primer, wet sand with 400 grit, then spray a few coats of flat black.  go light with the coats or you will get runs/sags.

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Re: removing Honda tags from tank...
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2010, 02:33:39 PM »
I was thinking matte black with a north carolina flag/ brass knuckle theme.  I'll post up some simple drawings before too long
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