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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: Borrow vacuum gauges in/near Rapid City, SD?
« Reply #100 on: August 05, 2012, 09:42:18 PM »
I wanted to get the front brake squared away before I tried to pull the bike down off the Pink Work Table of Awesomeness.  For one, brake calipers are easier to put on when they're not a foot off the ground.  Two, this table is no hydraulic uppy-downy type table.  No, this sucker's manual-- you push the bike up on an aluminum loading ramp, and take it down using the bike's own functioning brakes.

I already rebuilt the master cylinder, and tested its functionality when I pumped the old brake piston out of the caliper.  Once I got the temporary system bled, the MC worked perfectly, and pushed the piston out in about five pumps.  Earlier in the thread, I mentioned that I found a reproduction caliper piston on eBay for about $40.  I had to wait a long time for it because it got lost in the mail.  I contacted the seller, and the new one arrived a couple days later.  I had also ordered a caliper seal from Dime City Cycles.  I was pleased because it was one of the first parts to arrive.  I was sad when I discovered it wasn't the right size.

Next to the piston, it looks pretty close.


Inside the caliper, it's obviously the wrong size.


After doing a little investigating, I found that the OEM part number 45108-300-003 seal is indeed the correct one for a CB650... if it's the European model.  American/Canadian models use a different size piston.  The European models have a 38mm caliper piston, whereas the American models use a 42mm piston.  The correct seal is OEM part number 45215-533-004.  I found that using my Custom Google Search-fu here on the SOHC/4 forum, so thank you to those members who have gone before me and figured things like this out!

You can clearly see the size difference.  (that's what she said!)


Imagine that... you get the correct size seal, and it fits fine!


A new stainless steel braided brake line, made to my specifications by a guy on eBay.  Seems to be of good quality, though it doesn't have the date and country of manufacture.  Since I live in South Dakota, things like that are not usually an issue.  New banjo bolts and crush washers joined the party soon thereafter.


A new coat of caliper paint in a very high-tech paint booth has everything looking very nice.


While I waited for the new caliper seal to come in the mail, I went ahead and put the MC back on the bike.  It still had some fluid in it, so I rigged up the fanciest plug my limited on-hand hardware selection offered.  I stacked up a bunch of fender washers and used the banjo bolt to hold them in place.  I didn't have another bolt that fit, so this had to suffice.  It worked well enough for my purposes, but if you try something like this, expect a few drops of fluid every once and again.


I was still waiting on the stupid caliper seal, so I used that time to finish sealing the blast box.  At the end of the night, I looked at my shiny new brake line and thought, "Why isn't this on the bike?  It will seal much better, especially with some help from this thoroughly-destroyed inner tube..."  What you're looking at is a couple of the small fender washers and a long screw sandwiching a couple small chunks of inner tube around the caliper end of the new brake line.  Worked better than the stack of washers at the MC, that's for sure!


I didn't get any pictures of the finished caliper yet because bleeding the system was a frickin' nightmare.  I tried for almost an hour to bleed the system, and nothing I tried worked.  Pump and hold, tap the lines to loosen air bubbles, use the jar with fluid and a tube, feather the bubbles out, got a syringe and tried to draw fluid through as well as push fluid up... none of these bleeding techniques worked.  I gave up for the night when I noticed brake fluid coming out of the plunger hole.  It wasn't much... but enough for me to say f$&% it for the the night. 

The next day I tore the MC apart and gave it all another once over, paying special attention to the tiny fluid return hole.  I put the whole thing back together, complete with a new o-ring for the reservoir I bought at Ace hardware.  No leaks from the plunger, so I think what happened was I pushed the lever too far and some fluid got past the seal.  I put the MC back on the bike, filled up the reservoir and lightly feathered the handle.  Bubbles galore!  Yay!  until...

The bubbles stopped.  I used zip ties to crack the lever and let it sit all day.  Came back... the only resistance I got was the MC spring.  Grr... I didn't want to mess with it anymore that night.  Turned out the new o-ring was just a smidge too big and let some fluid weep out between the reservoir and the MC body overnight.

Today, I finally got the system to bleed.  I took the MC off... again... and cleaned up the holes... again... and put the original o-ring back in the reservoir.  It's still weeping, so a new reservoir kit is in my future, I think.  I have another MC, so when I noticed the lid wasn't sealing down tight, I got the lid off the spare.  Turns out, the reason the first one wasn't sealing was because I hadn't put it back together correctly.  There's a metal ring that goes between the lid and the rubber diaphragm, and for some unknown reason, I thought the metal ring went between the rubber and the reservoir.  D'oh!  Anyways, the replacement fits much more nicely.

Despite the new lid, I still had difficulty getting the system to bleed.  Finally, I took the whole hydraulic system off the bike and reassembled it at the bench.  Filled it back up with fresh fluid, and still got nothing.  I moved the caliper to hang down to the floor.  Evidently, I had a huge bubble in the system somewhere, because once I let the caliper dangle, several large bubbles burped up through the reservoir.  I stuck a screwdriver between the pads and pushed a little fluid back up into the reservoir.  I moved the lever, and I couldn't move the screwdriver.  Let off the handle, screwdriver came out.  Yay!!

Put it all back on the bike, topped off the reservoir and got ready to move the bike down off the table!!

This is me squeezing as hard as possible.
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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: Borrow vacuum gauges in/near Rapid City, SD?
« Reply #101 on: August 05, 2012, 10:08:14 PM »
Earlier in the thread, I posted a procedure for cleaning the tank.  It seems that if you don't do something to immediately stop rust, fill the tank with ethanol-added fuel, and leave it sit for two years, you wind up with a mess and have to clean the tank again.  This is the gas that came out of the tank.  Mind you, the purpose of filling the tank was to preserve the rust-free interior until it was time to start the bike up.


To drain the tank, I simply connected a hose, turned on the petcock, and went about other bike-related business.  After a couple hours, I noticed the stream had been reduced to barely a trickle and there was still plenty of gas in the tank.  I pulled the petcock, only to discover the "filter" that comes with these things was hopelessly clogged.  I ruined the screen in the process of removing it, but I'm not too worried since I'll be running an in-line filter.

After doing some searching on the forum, I decided to go with the Works toilet cleaner method to de-rust the tank (again).  I put the petcock back in, poured in the whole bottle of cleaner, and sloshed for about 10 minutes.  The rust inside was only surface rust, and when I poured out the cleaner, the inside was soooooo clean!  It was nothing short of amazing!  I flushed the tank with water, but by the time I was ready to stick a towel down in the tank, it was rusting up again!  Grrr!!!!



Something I didn't know, and wish I had at the beginning of this cleaning attempt was the chemistry behind hydrochloric acid and aluminum.  I noticed that the petcock was very hot when I went to pull it after sloshing the toilet cleaner around.  It was literally smoking.  Come to find out later, hydrochloric acid eats aluminum very quickly, and produces hydrogen gas.  You remember that nice, new petcock I put in this thing?  Yeah... it's toast.  So, don't do that.  Use a rubber stopper or some other means to seal the top and bottom of the tank during the cleaning process.  Look for the burn marks in the pics below.



Fortunately, I had a second petcock off of the Standard's tank.  I thought it was shot, but it turns out that it was OK.  I used the standpipe off the trashed new one, and it works perfectly.



More homework, and I discovered the phosphoric acid cleaning method.  I decided to look for Kleen-Strip Prep and Etch, and discovered that I can't find it anywhere in town.  After calling and visiting multiple hardware stores, I settled on a similar product that said contained phosphoric acid.  I also purchased acetone to sop up water, since the lips around both orifices prevents a fairly significant amount of liquid from escaping.  It worked pretty well, but I still ended up with some surface rust, and I figure if it's not 100% perfect, it'll still be OK.  I am running a filter, so it's not the end of the world.  I settled on a small filter that would fit between my carbs without interfering.  This is looking straight down over the carbs.


I found that there's no way I'm ever getting a worm gear on the fuel line down at the carb inlet, so I went to the hardware store and picked up an assortment of wire and spring style hose clamps.  I don't recall exactly what size they are, but using 1/4" automotive fuel line, the red one works great.


I was able to use the red one down by the carb inlet, two worm gear hose clamps on the fuel filter, and another red one at the petcock.
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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: Borrow vacuum gauges in/near Rapid City, SD?
« Reply #102 on: August 05, 2012, 10:27:03 PM »
My wife painted the tank and side covers with rattle can Valspar paint from Lowe's.  Even though we didn't do any prep work aside from washing them, I think it turned out pretty well!






We hit them with several coats of spray clear coat.  I know it's cheap and won't hold up, but I figured it couldn't hurt.


Holy crap, it looks like a motorcycle!


I had to do some sorting out with electrical stuff.  The rear brake lit up the brake light, but I got nothing on the front brake.  A little detective work showed a bad switch, so I robbed the one off the extra MC.  Good switch in there, and it still didn't light up the brake light.  More investigation showed me this:


The PO apparently didn't like the front brake, or something shorted out on the rear brake and he "fixed" it by robbing the lead from the front brake.  I tied the front brake and this loose red wire together and now have a fully functional brake light.

At some point, you have to start it.  There's only so much you can do to it before you have to actually run the thing.  Here's the startup video.  Mind you, this is after I tore the carb rack apart, cleaned it, new gaskets, and bench synced. 


Honestly, this was the second start.  Fortunately for me, the first start was not recorded.  I attempted to start it for several minutes before realizing the off-run-off switch was, you guessed it, off.  Also, when I first started it, gas dripped from the petcock and flowed like rain from the #3 carb.  After I shut it all down in a panic, my wife suggested we try it again.  As of today, no drips, nothing leaking under the carbs and petcock.  I think I had a sticky float that just needed a moment to settle in, and I have no idea what happened with the petcock, but it's working so I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.

All four pipes got hot, so that's good news!  It's super lean, needing full choke to run at all.  I'll be fiddling with the air/fuel mixture soon.  I noticed some white smoke coming from #3 and #4 pipes.  I know this might be a simple valve adjustment, or it might be more.  I also noticed a lot of rattling coming from the head, so next up is valve and cam chain adjustment, and a compression check when I get the right fitting for my compression tester.

I also think I'm going to take a crack at building my own vacuum gauges in order to balance the carbs.  I like making stuff, and for what I'd pay for a "real" set, or getting them done at a shop, I might as well do this myself too.  Unless someone is willing to loan me one...
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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: *Pics* Blast cabinet, front brake, and startup video
« Reply #103 on: August 06, 2012, 03:36:20 AM »
Did u ever have the head off and the camchain adjuster out?
Sounds like the adjuster is in wrong.   Some of the knock is the clutch.
Need to hear it a little better.
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1980 Honda CB650C: *Pics* Blast cabinet, front brake, and startup video
« Reply #104 on: August 06, 2012, 11:03:46 AM »
I've never taken any of the engine internals out. I'll run it again tonight and try to take better video.
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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: *Pics* Blast cabinet, front brake, and startup video
« Reply #105 on: August 06, 2012, 05:08:40 PM »
Easy way to see is take the oil pan off.   Pics on the 650 site.   
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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: *Pics* Blast cabinet, front brake, and startup video
« Reply #106 on: August 13, 2012, 10:11:55 AM »
I have run the engine a for a few minutes several times now.  The carbs and petcock are nice and dry, which makes me very happy.  I checked the valves clearances, and a few were off by a couple thousandths of an inch.  Once I got them adjusted, I followed the procedure for adjusting the cam chain.  It started up pretty easily again, and this time, after it ran for a couple of minutes, I was able to completely shut the choke off.  It wanted to die, so I turned up the idle a bit, and it ran with the choke totally off.   ;D

I'm concerned about some clackity noise coming from the engine.  See video for a better description of the noise.  It's not a great video, but I hope it's just regular valve train noise for this bike, and not a bad cam chain.

http://youtu.be/5OSPHsAlPic

Out of curiosity, I put my meter on the battery to see if it's charging.  I got a reading of 11.4 volts with the engine running at about 3K RPM.  I'm going to try charging the battery and running the engine up to 4K, which is apparently the procedure for this bike.  I know the charging system on the 650 is a little different from the other SOHC4s in that the 650s system is the same one used on the DOHCs.  Fortunately, I have the chopped Standard's engine from which I can rob parts, if needed.  I know I at least need one of the coils, since one of the coils on the Custom is cracked.  It's functional, but has a split running almost the length of the housing.

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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: *Pics* Blast cabinet, front brake, and startup video
« Reply #107 on: August 13, 2012, 01:27:11 PM »
I would say the tensioner is in wrong.    Only noise you should get is a little clutch rattle.   Pull the pan and look. 
Dont use the other vids on utube as a judge either.  Most I have found are wrong too.
I even started a thread on the 650 site on why everyone puts them in wrong.
After searching through 6 or so here is one with lowmiles that sounds normal.
My nighthawk CB650
Here is another if you can get over the 9k startup LOL

1981 Honda CB650
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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: *Pics* Blast cabinet, front brake, and startup video
« Reply #108 on: August 23, 2012, 06:40:45 AM »
It lives!

I'll post a video and update with pictures soon.  School starts back up on Monday, so what work I've been doing to the bike was limited to taking a few pictures as I scrambled to get it rideable before my time really comes at a premium. 

A particularly happy note to all this: my wife rode it to have lunch with me yesterday.  She has chronic pain, and at this time last year, we thought she'd never be able to ride.  She participated in an in-patient pain management clinic in Omaha, NE, last winter, and because of that she can do almost anything she wants, including ride!

Also: we finally found a name for it.  The Cash Machine.  I found a lighted "simulated neon" sign that reads "Cash Machine" on Craigslist, and thought it would be a pretty cool light for the garage, then realized it was the perfect description of the bike.  It's a machine that runs on lots of cash.   8)
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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: Introducing the "Cash Machine"
« Reply #109 on: August 23, 2012, 07:54:51 AM »
Cash Machine .... hahaha love it!

That's great to hear about your wife by the way. A good ride could feel pretty liberating if you'd been cooped up for a while. (dirty pun possibly intended lol)

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Re: 1980 Honda CB650C: Introducing the "Cash Machine"
« Reply #110 on: August 14, 2024, 10:14:58 AM »
It's been a minute... but there's plenty to catch up on!

TL;DR: Work on the Cash Machine has resumed.

So... In the last 12 years, a few things have happened. The purple bike, the 1980 CB650C, aka the Purple Bunny Bopper, aka the parts bike, aka my wife's bike... has been wrecked twice- once by me, once by my wife. I came away more or less unscathed, and rode the bike home. My wife was not so lucky. She got thrown over the handlebars and suffered numerous injuries, including a skull fracture and a compound fracture to her right arm, just above the wrist.

Pro tip: try not to find your wife in the ditch with bones sticking out of her arm, if you can help it.

That was in 2020, and the bike hasn't been run since. After careful consideration, I've decided to proceed with the original plan of using the parts bike to build the chopper (aka the Cash Machine). I am feeling productive and am using garage time to fight depression, so I've been working hard to make progress. I'll upload pics and do a detailed write up soon.
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Cash Machine Updates: Background
« Reply #111 on: September 07, 2024, 08:45:55 PM »
OK. Fair warning: I plan to catch up on non-motorcycle things that are woven into motorcycle things. This is therapeutic writing for me, just as much as it is a project blog.

A 12-year gap in a project blog means there's a lot to bring you up to speed.

Since my last project post in 2012, the Cash Machine has mostly just sat in a shed or storage unit. It's primary purpose has been engine holder and a dream deferred. As mentioned in my mini-update, the Custom was the rider, and that's what we did: ride. My wife rode it to work. I rode it all over the Black Hills of South Dakota, our home. Some guy on a bicycle tried to cross the highway in front of me, and I had to choose: hit him, or take my chances with my handling skills in the ditch. I chose the ditch, and ended up barrel rolling through the ditch while the bike ended up in the middle of the highway. That rattled me, and I took a little time off of riding. The bike was minimally damaged because I had gotten down to about 10-15 mph before the back end slid out from under me. I was minimally damaged, too - just a few scrapes and some torn jeans. I was able to ride the bike home, though the fork was slightly twisted and the tank dented.

I ended up buying a 1981 Goldwing GL1100 sometime in 2016, I think. I applied the same meticulous approach I did with the Custom, replacing many parts before I felt it was safe enough to ride. It was a gift to myself for losing 70 pounds, but when I gained the weight back, the brain gremlins convinced me that I didn't really deserve it, so rendering it roadworthy took 2 years. A lot of the skills I gained working on the CB650 applied, particularly rebuilding the carbs. I was really happy to ride it. I take a lot of pride in knowing my bikes inside and out.

Around this time, in 2018, I noticed during oil changes on the Custom that the oil was a pretty glitter color. I was weighing my options, thinking I would do a top end on the engine that came with the Cash Machine. At one point, another CB650 popped up on Facebook Marketplace. The owner was a young airman who had half a mind to make a cafe racer, but he didn't know his ass from his elbow when it came to this bike. He had it listed as a "500 nighthawk", but I knew what I was looking at in the pictures. He must have had to get out of a storage unit, because he went from $1000 to $500 to $100 to free in two days. I was quick on the draw and snapped it up for free. It was a rolling frame with the engine in it and a box of random parts. After hauling it home, I tried turning it over, and it spun freely with good compression. I did a quick engine swap into the Custom, and it ran and rode just fine! Not a bad score, if I do say so myself. The Cash Machine remained an engine holder, for its own seized engine.

My wife rode the Custom from time to time, but we were trying for a family. She felt that riding was an unnecessary risk, and it spent a lot of time in the shed/driveway/garage. Then the pandemic hit, and we were forced to stop fertility treatments. We went on a few rides together, her on the Custom, me on the Goldwing. The last one was on July 25, 2020. Coming around a gentle curve in the hills, we saw a car coming from the opposing direction that looked like it might have been her parents. They were a little over the line. I glanced in my mirror and saw her headlight behind me. A few moments later, I looked again and she wasn't there. I pulled over, and after a minute, she didn't catch up. I had been working on my slow speed skills, and I U-turned that Goldwing on a 2-lane road, feet up, no duckwalk and went back. She was in the ditch, and I will spare you the details beyond there were bones on the outside and a lot of blood. Of course, since it was during the pandemic, the hospital wouldn't let me in to see her, so it was a long 4 days before she got to come home. That really rattled me, and I didn't ride again for another 2 years.

Come 2022, I was just getting my nerve to ride again, going on longer and longer day trips around the Hills. At the time, I was a staff developer for the local school district. Basically, I taught teachers. A few days before school was supposed to start, I was informed my position was dissolved and I could either return to the classroom or resign. I chose to resign. To keep us afloat, I sold the Goldwing (for a tidy profit, nonetheless, even with what I had spent on parts). The Custom and Cash Machine remained in the shed; the Custom actually sustained fairly minimal damage in the wreck. A new instrument cluster, brake master cylinder, and maybe some time trying to repair the fork stops would have rendered the bike rideable. I just couldn't bring myself to fix it and ride it again, after seeing it upside down in the ditch next to my badly injured wife.

Among all of these other events, I also:
  • Lost a close friend to heart attack
  • Lost and regained 70 pounds
  • Earned a doctorate in Education;
  • Was diagnosed with Bipolar II;
  • Sold and bought a house;
  • Lost and regained 135 pounds;
  • Became caretaker to my in-laws, both of whom have dementia;
  • Became a foster parent;
  • Started and failed to finish an addition for the in-laws;
  • Started a new job as a professional developer in healthcare

So yeah, a few things beyond bike building happened. Pesky life things, interfering with motorcycling.

One of the items from that list I need to highlight is the bipolar. I struggle with depression, and when it hits, it hits hard and sticks around a while (that's one of the characteristics that distinguished Bipolar II from Bipolar I). Again, sparing the details, things have gotten hard lately. To cope, I have been spending time working on the Cash Machine. The desire to ride is outweighing the fear of the slide. One thing I am doing differently this time is my approach and attention to detail. Normally, I would want to be doing Hednut's Biohazard Bike-level detail work (what happened to that thread?! That was a glorious, extremely well-documented build!!!). But for the Cash Machine, right now, all I'm after is getting it on the road. Safely, but not microscopic details safe. As in, use a real fuse, not a piece of wire safe. Rattle can right over the old paint. Gonna flake off in 6 months? Don't care. I just want to ride.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2024, 11:39:47 PM by JimJamerino »
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Cash Machine: Just Start
« Reply #112 on: September 07, 2024, 09:18:44 PM »
Edit: Photobucket doesn't allow embedding anymore unless you pay them extra. All my broken embedded photo links are restored when I started paying, but now I have to pay extra to embed? WTF? For you, my friends, I'll pay the $13. You're worth it!  ;)

I've been posting my progress on Facebook. Rather than re-type everything, I'm just copy/pasting from my Facebook posts. I'll add some more detail, but here are the posts and the associated pictures.  :D

From August 8, 2024:

“Just Start”

I saw a post today that said something to the effect of “The antidote to depression isn’t joy, it’s expression.” The post went on to encourage creation of art or writing to express yourself. While I have been known to pick up a pencil or paintbrush from time to time, and am a reasonably good writer, I have often felt most creative when building things.
For quite some time now, I have felt stuck, bound by responsibilities and consequences of past decisions. At risk of Vaguebooking, I will say that there are several significant challenges Theresa and I are currently facing. The weight of them is considerable, and it is easy to spend hours on the couch watching comfort TV rather than take action. Those who struggle with depression know the weight I’m talking about. It’s nearly impossible to initiate tasks when I’m under it.

A trick I learned while writing my dissertation was “Just Start.” Maybe the whole task doesn’t get done, but a little is better than none at all, and oftentimes, I find that once I get started, the momentum keeps me going. For me, the greatest struggle is to move the weight enough that I can catch a breath and get through the sticking point. If I can get through that tipping point, if I can bring myself to get off the couch, if I can Just Start, wondrous things can happen.

After I finished working today, the cool afternoon breeze lifted the edge of the depression blanket enough to let some light in. I had the time, energy, and initiative to start a project in the garage, cleaning and finding things to sell in preparation for moving. I was able to Just Start, and before long I had the space to rearrange the motorcycle work area into something a little more useful.
I’ve been aching to ride, and that damned sense of responsibility instilled by my parents just won’t let me make the financially poor choice to finance a newer machine. That, and I like being married to my wife; we make big money decisions together and a new motorcycle just isn’t in the budget right now.  The pain of not riding has overcome the weight keeping me on the couch at night. I can’t afford a new bike, but I have the parts and know-how to build a running machine.

I moved my chopper project bike (aka The Cash Machine) into the garage a couple months ago, but I haven’t done much with it. Once I had the momentum going today, I decided to Just Start on building the bike. It was a simple start: pull the seized engine out of the frame. Ready Theresa’s wrecked bike for parts teardown by moving it to the garage. The next step will be to replace the steering head bearings and swap the fork tubes (assuming the Purple Bunny Bopper’s tubes aren’t bent from T’s wreck). After that, replace the neutral switch on the purple bike’s engine, then swap the engine into the Cash Machine’s frame.

If I put in some time tomorrow night, I could have a running engine in the Cash Machine by this weekend. All I have to do is Just Start every night.

Where we're starting:


If you look carefully at the instrument cluster on the purple bike (aka the Custom), you can see the clocks are pushed back at a funny angle. Results of the wreck.


Seized engine out of the Cash Machine. If the odometer is to be believed, this engine only has about 10,000 miles on it.


The results: A machine with no engine. Go me. Also, I think you can really see the difference in rake. Remember, the Cash Machine is raked an additional 5 degrees.


Turns out my little Black and Decker convertible hand truck fits the engine quite nicely for moving about the shop.
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« Reply #113 on: September 07, 2024, 09:48:29 PM »
From August 8, 2024:

I know it doesn’t look like anything changed, but the Cash Machine has new steering bearings. Thanks for the help, Caleb!


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« Reply #114 on: September 07, 2024, 10:02:53 PM »
From August 9, 2024:

Even looking at the comparison side by side pics, it’s not super obvious that I swapped the forks tonight. But, that’s what I’m going for: a custom bike that on the surface looks close to stock, but the more you look, the more you see how much has been changed.

The purple bike’s fork legs are 3” longer than the stock fork legs for the project. It’s a subtle, but definitely noticeable difference when sitting on it. The result, if I mathed correctly, should be a bike that’s about 1 1/2” lower than stock.

Tonight’s work was a little emotional for me. When Theresa wrecked 4 years ago on the purple bike, most of the damage was to the instrument cluster. As near as the crash investigator could tell, when she went off the road and down the bank, the bike pitched over the front wheel, smacking the headlight into the ground while throwing Theresa over the handlebars. For those that don’t know, she hit the ground face first (thankfully, we always ride with helmets) and folded her right hand down, breaking her radius just above the wrist and popping both arm bones out of the skin. If you can help it, I do not recommend finding your wife in the ditch with bones showing on the outside.

So tonight, while tearing apart the front end of her bike, I thought a lot about that day. Part of me looked at the machine and understood it’s just a collection of parts, some damaged beyond repair. Part of me time warped to July 25, 2020. It was a little cathartic, yet I was reminded of how much time I spent putting the headlight bucket on that bike 13 years ago. I do find it a little fateful that I bought the purple bike for the purpose of using its parts to build the chopper. It’s taken over a decade and some trauma, but the project is coming full circle. I got a late start tonight, but once I Just Started, the momentum carried me through 3 straight hours of work and I achieved what I set out to do tonight.

Teardown of the Custom's headlight... something's missing here.


Slightly sketchy, lifting the front end of the Custom with a jack. A rational person might have pulled the engine first to make this step of the project easier. The Cash Machine was easy: I just used ratchet straps hooked to the back of the lift to lever down on the center stand.


The fork tubes were not obviously damaged in the wreck. This supports our theory that T was going slowly when she went off the road. Both bikes, no forks.


Alternate view of the headless bikes.


The Custom, with standard forks. These are 3 inches shorter than stock, and the whole thing leans forward. Pulling it off the center stand slams the kick stand into the concrete, and the kickstand basically makes the bike stand upright, in danger of tipping over.


The whole stance of the Custom is different.


The Custom's forks installed on the Cash Machine. Brake parts and the wheel seem to be interchangeable.


Where we finished the night: Forks successfully swapped. The stance of the Cash Machine is subtly, yet noticeably leaner than before.


Gotta sit on it, just to taste the flavor. Get your mind out of the gutter. Ya perv.


A second look.


Side by side comparison. Where we started on bottom, where we ended on top. Notice the back wheel of the Cash Machine is a little closer to the back of the lift in the top image. Subtle... but the difference is there.
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« Reply #115 on: September 07, 2024, 10:13:36 PM »
From August 10, 2024:

Progress continues. Just Start.

Tonight’s work included taking inventory of my parts stash. If I had to guess, I could probably build two running-ish bikes from the parts I have, but my goal is just to get the Cash Machine on the road. Normally, I would be taking my time, lovingly and intentionally working slowly to ensure every little thing is as close to perfect as I can make it. Cleaning parts, painting, redoing slightly broken parts… that is my normal process. I am actively giving myself permission to think like my late friend Hippy Dave: “Just get it rideable.” So I’m just putting parts together. I had half a mind to try to keep the Cash Machine’s original parts, but nobody cares and almost all of the parts are interchangeable. I have parts from 3+ bikes, so I’m just picking the best one if there’s an obvious difference, or grabbing one at random and going with it. I am keeping safety in mind; no reckless “Send it” decisions, but the pace I’m looking to keep prevents me from disassembling the wiring loom to inspect and clean every wire and connection. I will save that for later. I will save the upgrades for later. Custom paint and tank… later. Replace the consumable items that are probably fine but I do it just for the peace of mind… later. All LED lighting to reduce the load on the aging alternator? Later.  Right now, I just want to make it go.

Tonight I successfully installed the basic wiring loom. I also placed the air filter box, battery box, rectifier/regulator, starter solenoid, and front brake. The instrument cluster and ignition switch are installed. I ordered a new front brake master cylinder and handle. I took the side covers and tank off the purple bike, so now there’s nothing purple left on that machine. Tomorrow I’ll install handlebar controls and further disassemble the purple bike. Might get froggy and pull the carbs, which is a labor-intensive chore all unto its own. Probably by Tuesday I’ll be pulling the engine for the swap.

Air filter housing installed. A smart man would check for mouse nests, but not this guy.


Wiring loom installed. Kinda.


Future headlight bucket rat's nest.


Battery box, rectifier, regulator stolen off the Custom.


Another view of the battery box. For those who don't know, the CB650 shared a CDI Ignitor module setup with the GL1100, a kind of half-step to electronic ignition timing.


How we finished the night.
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« Reply #116 on: September 07, 2024, 10:25:51 PM »
From August 11, 2024:

I had a good day today. Simultaneously got a lot done, yet felt like it was a relaxing day. I tried my hand at body work, which I’ve never done before. I took a hammer to a junk tank to experiment. The stock tank needs to be modified to accommodate the increased take, which I discovered I can do without cutting and welding. I was able to preserve the stock-ish look while clearing the neck and accounting for turning. I like how it turned out. I will do the same modification to the thrashed tank from the purple bike for this “get it on the road rat bike” version of the Cash Machine. I have another tank in good condition that I will use at a later date to modify and then do proper body work and paint the way I want, complete with airbrushing.

I also got handlebar controls and cables moved over. Last, but not least, I managed to soak my watch band in cable lube which resulted in a minor chemical burn. So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice.

The Cash Machine with an unmodified tank on it. Notice the light between the tank and fork neck. It sits about a 3/4" back due to the rake.


A few whacks with a persuader, and we have space between the tank and the neck. Basically, all I did was fold the seam down. On the purple tank, if it leaks, I'll smother it in JB Weld and move on with my day.


Awful close when turned to full lock. A few more whacks...


"Like a glove!"


Snug as a bug.


Less light between the neck and the tank. Looks close to stock, as intended. Very subtle. Very demure. Very mindful.


Tank off, tank on.


Minor chemical burn. A smarter man would have worn gloves.


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« Reply #117 on: September 07, 2024, 10:34:28 PM »
From August 12, 2024:

Just Start time in the garage has been doing my brain good. I’ve been going out in the evenings and progress has been steady. I’ve got motorcycles on the brain and I’m ok with that. I’ll need to buy a few parts, like new tires, but I am really prioritizing this as a budget build.

Tonight I worked on preparing the donor engine for removal. I pulled the carburetor rack and exhaust and a few other parts. I noticed that this engine will need a shift shaft seal, but it’ll be fine for now.

Carb rack out. Past Jim said, "I rebuilt these before I put them in. They're fine." Future Jim knows differently... but that's a story for another post.


The ratchet strap method has proven very useful. You take your air filter housing loose, then use a ratchet strap to pull the air chamber back into the frame. Run the strap over the boots to compress them juuuuust enough to give you the wiggle room you need to pull the rack out.


Air chamber gone, to be used on the Cash Machine. If you think the handlebar is turned a little far, you're right. The damage from the wreck included ripping the fork stop tab off the frame. I tore it a little when I wrecked it, Theresa finished the job.


A little greasy from a leaky shift shaft seal. This is an easy fix, but I'm not going to worry about it right now.

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« Reply #118 on: September 07, 2024, 10:46:39 PM »
Someone that I've thought a lot about while working on this build is my late friend, Hippy Dave. He was one of my best friends, and a motorcycle enthusiast to boot. He was the kind of biker that felt the need to ride, whether it was safe or not. "Just get it rideable," was something he said every time he asked me to help him work on his bikes.

One summer, an old lady pulled out of a parking lot in front of him and he wiped his bike across the front of her car. Due to health and insurance reasons, he didn't ride for almost a year. He had a new bike within a week, which he stored in our garage. His "rent" was letting me ride it. One time, I went to ride it, but I realized after I had gotten a couple blocks away that the tags were expired and I didn't know where on the bike he kept the insurance card. I finished the day's ride, feeling like a real rebel that got away with something. When I told him about it, he said, "I know what happened. You got your knees in the wind and said, 'F*** it, I'll take my chances!'" He was right.

One of the things Hippy also loved was houseplants. He had this gangly, ugly, viney, tree-looking thing taking over the corner of his living room. He said it was a night cerus (pronounced sear-us), and it only blooms once a year. I never saw it bloom, and after he passed away in 2016, my wife took his stupid plant. This damn thing hasn't done anything but grow vines for 8 years, and all of a sudden, as soon as I started working on the Cash Machine, it has put on 8 blooms. The thing about the night cerus is the blooms only open at night, and they only last one night. They're beautiful, and very fragrant.

I'm not a praying man, but I have to wonder if Hippy isn't in the garage with me, choosing the music and saying, "Just get it rideable."

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« Reply #119 on: September 07, 2024, 10:52:51 PM »
From August 14, 2024:

I achieved a major milestone tonight. A running engine now sits in the Cash Machine’s frame. I’ve gotten better at swapping engines on these bikes. It’s amazing to think that a handful of bolts is all that keeps the heart of the bike in place, and the whole thing can be removed in a couple hours.

I didn’t sleep much last night and had a long day today, but I just wanted to make this milestone happen. I’m tired now and just want to sleep. My brain seems to have other plans, though.
A new battery and a few other things should render the bike a runner. I know once I start the engine, I’ll be more motivated than ever to get it on the road. I still need to square up the title and get insurance.

We have many changes coming, including selling our house and moving. Time in the garage helps calm my brain, usually, but I think I just have too many things going on right now for it to be as therapeutic as usual. At least I’m making progress on a bucket list item instead of just watching my favorite shows and movies.

Engine out. A technique for removing engines from this style of bike is to lay the bike on its side and lifting the frame off the engine, rather than finagling the engine out of the frame and trying to lift 150 pounds in an awkward way.


Alternate view.


Engine in the Cash Machine.


Major milestone.



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« Reply #120 on: September 07, 2024, 11:03:53 PM »
From August 28, 2024:

Tonight’s Just Start was good, until it wasn’t. I’m stepping out of my comfort zone by just assembling the Cash Machine with existing known good enough parts. I installed the carburetors, and the process is usually kind of a pain in the ass. Through trial and error over many years, I have gotten down to where I can get them installed with minimal headache. Usually, I would take the time to break them down and spend hours meticulously cleaning. Tonight I just slapped the known good set in the bike. After the tedious process of installing the carbs, I thought to try the throttle…
They’re stuck. No throttle movement. It’s likely a small amount of fuel varnish is all, an easy fix… when the carbs are off the bike. I just sighed and cleaned up for the night.

This would have been avoided if I had just thought to snap the slides open when I had them off. My usual process would have caught this a mile away. But tonight, it just felt like defeat. An hour of garage time wasted, plus the process of taking the damn things back off the bike and cleaning them.

Logically, I know it’s not defeat. It’s really a very minor setback, especially since I have the experience to have a relatively painless technique for getting the carbs on and off. But it feels like I’m just spinning my wheels.

Tomorrow will be better.

Ratchet strap to hold the airbox back and smoosh the rubber connectors.


Another view of the strapped back airbox. You can connect the throttle cables and the choke. Use the choke cable to close the butterflies and lift the black plastic connector out of the way for installation. I wonder how they did this at the factory, because this is a time-intensive step.


Carbs set in place. In this pic, they’re not fully seated to the engine. Seating the carbs on the boots is eased by warming the boots with a heat gun for a few minutes. Another technique I've used is to put another ratchet strap around the front of the bike to pull the carbs onto the boots.


Other side.


See the gap between the boot and carb? The bike wouldn’t run if I tried to start it with the carbs like this.


Once the carbs are seated, there’s a good 3/4” of clearance between the airbox and the carbs.


All reassembled. And ready to be torn down again.


Just... do yourself a favor. Try to operate the slides on your carbs before you install them.

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From September 4, 2024:

My Just Start motorcycle project continues. I had a slight setback with gummed up carburetors. It only took a couple hours to pull them, hit them with a little carb cleaner, then work them loose so they operate as smoothly as they should.

I also replaced the handlebars. There’s a little guide hole for a pin that keeps the throttle housing from spinning drilled into these bars. On the set that was on the bike, the guide hole was in the wrong spot. I figured I could either drill a new hole in the right spot or swap a different set of bars on. Either way, I’d be pulling the handlebars off, so I opted for the swap.

I considered getting the controls all situated, but I decided to stop for tonight. That insidious depression is lurking in my mind and I need to sleep to stave it off better. I have too many other things happening right now to be fighting with my own mind just because I didn’t get to bed at a fair hour.

Carb bowls off and sprayed down with carb cleaner.


Reinstalled... again.
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Now it's starting to look like a bike again
« Reply #122 on: September 07, 2024, 11:27:28 PM »
From September 5, 2024:

More motorcycle progress tonight. It’s starting to look like a proper motorcycle again! I need to fabricate a rear fender setup somehow. Someone on a motorcycle Facebook group mentioned using a trailer fender sourced from a farm store. I checked out Runnings today, and I can score a fender blank for $35. Tomorrow’s payday!

Tonight I finished the handlebars, reinstalled the speedometer and tachometer, and connected most of the wiring. I didn’t have a proper main fuse, otherwise I would have taken video of turning the engine over. We’re getting closer all the time! We’re starting to get to the part of the build that requires money. I can rob lots of parts, but some things just need to be replaced. The main fuse is an example. I could hillbilly it with a hunk of wire, but being an electrician’s son, I can’t abide improper fuses. I’ll need new tires and a couple cables, too. Soon. Bit by bit.

This is my favorite time of year to ride. The crisp air and enjoyable temperatures make for very lovely rides. Soon. Just Start.

Left handlebar controls and grip attached.


Booty shot.


I’ll probably get a different set of mirrors.


Right side controls installed. New generic master cylinder.


Instrument cluster and handlebars complete.
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Re: 1980 Honda CB650: The Cash Machine, but with a purple tank
« Reply #123 on: September 15, 2024, 11:01:51 PM »
I used some Just Start time tonight to take a hammer to the purple bike's tank to make it fit the Cash Machine. This tank is beat up from multiple wrecks, but it holds gas just fine and will serve the purpose of getting this bike back on the road.

As before, I just folded over the seam and made a couple dents so the tree doesn't hit it when the bars are locked out to either side. I'm pretty happy with the result, to be honest.

I reread my old posts and noticed that I had a running total of parts, so I figured I could start that up again. Here, in no particular order, are the parts I've ordered so far.

Spark plug boots - $22
Rear tire - $96
Rear rim strip - $7
Front tube - $19
Integrated tail light - $19
Front rim strip - $6
Main fuse - $8
Spark plug wire - $12
Front tire - $72
Rear fender - $42
Sprung solo seat - $36
Dyna beads - $21
Total: $360

The Cash Machine, as it sits with the engine in place and the tank on.


About 1/4" of clearance between the tree and the tank.


About the same on the other side.


You can really see how far the fork snapped over to bash the tank during my wife's wreck here.
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Re: 1980 Honda CB650: The Cash Machine - major progress
« Reply #124 on: October 31, 2024, 11:06:45 AM »
Whoo! A couple of major updates!

A couple weeks ago, my friend Caleb and I made a ton of progress.

How it started:
IMG_1710.HEIC

We started with the rear fender. When I modified the frame in the first place, I cut off the butt of the bike. This meant the plastic inner rear fender needed to be adjusted. I placed the plastic fender in and used my calibrated eyeball to draw a cutting line. I was able to use tin snips to trim the ABS inner fender to size.
IMG_1714.HEIC

Hook 'em while they're young! My son, Owen, wanted to see how he fits on Dad's motorcycle.
IMG_1715.HEIC

I figure if I get him hooked on motorcycles, he won't have money to get into drugs.
IMG_1716.HEIC

We placed a bracket (the gray piece spanning the gap between the upper shock mounts), then drilled through the bracket and fender. We welded a nut on the inside of the fender to anchor the fender down. I also drilled holes for a couple of small 10-32 screws and fender washers to connect the metal fender to the inner plastic fender. 
IMG_1718.HEIC

From the side with the fender mounted. I am very pleased with the lines. Not bad for using a generic fender from Amazon.
IMG_1720.HEIC

Seat mounted. It's a sprung solo seat, generic from Amazon. I attached the front to the gas tank bolt and welded a couple of studs for the springs to mount to. I'm a big 'ol boy, so I squish the springs quite a bit.
IMG_1721.HEIC

We then mounted the taillight/turn signal. I haven't decided how I will run the wiring, but I plan to use some throwover saddlebags, so I'll probably just let them run on the surface. Function over form.
IMG_1722.HEIC

Caleb also has a tire machine, so we went to mount tires. We were... mostly... successful. We got the rear tire and tube mounted with little struggle. The front tire put up a fight, and ended in us discovering we pinched the tube. So, I'm saying we were 75% successful in mounting new tires.
IMG_1724.HEIC

A few days later, I got a couple of Harbor Freight tire irons and a new tube. I was very careful to not pinch the new tube, and as gently as possible wrestled the tire onto the rim. I aired up the tube to seat the bead... and heard a hiss.

>:( >:( >:(

The hell with it. I went to the farm store and got a tube patch kit and patched the hole. I know this is potentially a questionable practice, but I'm doing it.

To figure out how to mount the tire with the tube and not pinch it (after all, I'm far from the first person to do this) I went on YouTube and checked out some videos. The only tip I picked up that I hadn't tried was to slightly inflate the tube. Then I remembered the zip tie trick, and just happened across a video of someone doing it with a tubed tire. The video went pretty slick; the guy was able to get the tire on the rim without irons. So I tried it.
IMG_1850.HEIC

The trick was to get the tube inside the tire, then pinch the beads together while tightening the zip ties. The goal is to get the beads to act as a single bead that can ride in the center groove inside the rim. Once I got the zip ties placed, I put a squirt of air in the tube to make the valve stem stand up a little firmer. It went almost as slick for me as it did in the video!
IMG_1851.HEIC

The new tire seated on the bead just fine, held air, blew up and deflated just fine. Now the Cash Machine has new shoes!
IMG_1852.HEIC

Next step: Mount the kick stand and exhaust, change the oil, then see if it'll start.

Other to-dos:
  • Attach the rear brake stay
  • Install chain and tension correctly
  • Grease the swingarm
  • Trim the rubber on the tank bolt so the new seat mount sits nice
  • Install fuel line and filter
  • Buy and install mirrors
  • Finish wiring the tail light (need to cut off the OEM connector and replace with bullet connectors
  • Install rear brake switch
  • Figure out how to adapt the passenger get mounts to just hold the exhaust (i.e., deal with the weird half-washer thing on the peg mounts)
  • Paint the tank and fenders
  • Print and attach stickers
  • Finish sorting the title and registration, then get it insured
  • RIDE!

Running total:
Spark plug boots - $22
Rear tire - $96
Rear rim strip - $7
Front tube - $19x2
Integrated tail light - $19
Front rim strip - $6
Main fuse - $8
Spark plug wire - $12
Front tire - $72
Rear fender - $42
Sprung solo seat - $36
Dyna beads - $21x2
Total: $400
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~ Jim

formerly "emperorspartacus"

There are old bikers.  There are dumb bikers.  There are no old, dumb bikers.

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