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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #125 on: February 22, 2011, 07:03:47 PM »
cool tires.   Go ahead and get those mounted so you can get the photos up.   ;)

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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #126 on: February 22, 2011, 08:18:52 PM »
 Did you get the Dunlops in BC? How much?

 I think your sidestand was from Matt Hotch.. or Hott Match customs.... if my memory is working..
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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #127 on: February 22, 2011, 10:43:03 PM »
Did you get the Dunlops in BC? How much?

 I think your sidestand was from Matt Hotch.. or Hott Match customs.... if my memory is working..
You can't find these tires in North America as far as I know. The funny thing is, if you read Sideburn Magazine, there are a number of flattrack racing teams that are obliged by their division rules to all use a specific set of tires, some being these K180s.
Dunlop doesn't list them on their site but does an obscure link to dealers you can contact for them. Most are lsited as not selling to the general public. I called every one of them and nobody had inventory. I checked with five or six of the major flattrack equipment dealers in the US and nobody had any inventory last year or knew when to expect any for this year. This was also true of the Maxxis tires.
Meanwhile, I had built new 18 & 19 wheels; Excell alloy rims, polished stainless spokes (both from Buchanan), silver powdercoated hubs. Trouble now was that nobody makes an 18 and 19 flattrack tire except these. Everyone is 19 or 17 and 21.
One guy finally told me they're made in Japan and I wound up going to a Japanese website (webike japan: I left a positive review in the "good dealer" section). Found them, about $150 a piece and $40 shipping. They arrived today, one week after ordering, by Canada Post. No duties, no taxes, no GST . . . just sign for them.
So I spent a bit more on the tires than I might have. US dealers wanted about $120 a piece and you can guess shipping from California to BC would have been near $75.

I didn't get my sidestand from Matt Hotch. It might be a ripoff of his design but there's an ebay seller who "makes" them in the US, I think about $130 plus shipping. It's maybe $40-$50 more than some of the more generic ones sold by TC Bros and everyone else but the way this one just fits my lines is great for me.

I am trying to get this thing done. Had some health and family issues that slowed things down. Rob (voxhonda) is making me a box swingarm and that's been a bit slow going for him with his cold winter. I am actually into the headlight bucket now, just been making and getting some relay setups made for key switch and H4 headlights. I was going as fast I could then looked at my old wheels and thought they looked ugly . . . may as well do it right and nice.
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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #128 on: February 23, 2011, 06:18:25 AM »
Looking forward to seeing those tires mounted up on your spiffy new wheels!

What are the wheel and tire sizes?
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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #129 on: February 23, 2011, 11:48:56 AM »
What are the wheel and tire sizes?

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Stock Honda hub powdercoated silver, polished stainless spokes, 19 x 2.5" Excel (non-dimpled) unpolished alloy rims.
Tire: Dunlop k180 100/90 x 19

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Stock Honda hub powdercoated silver, polished stainless spokes, 19 x 2.5" Excel (non-dimpled) unpolished alloy rims.
Tires: Dunlop K180 18 x 4.60
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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #130 on: March 10, 2011, 07:30:14 PM »
It's been a long day. Wheels built. Silver powdercoated hubs with new sealed bearings, polished stainless spokes, Excel unpolished alloy shouldered rims, Dunlop K180 tires:





Believe my bike is going back on the lift tomorrow.
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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #131 on: March 10, 2011, 07:31:16 PM »
Those are perty!
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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #132 on: March 10, 2011, 07:33:27 PM »
It's been a long day. Wheels built. Silver powdercoated hubs with new sealed bearings, polished stainless spokes, Excel unpolished alloy shouldered rims, Dunlop K180 tires:





Believe my bike is going back on the lift tomorrow.

Man... those look nice!

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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #133 on: March 10, 2011, 07:39:46 PM »
Yea, they look awesome!

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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #134 on: March 10, 2011, 07:40:51 PM »
What size did you get, i have been trying to get a set of 18s but they are out.

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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #135 on: March 10, 2011, 09:56:05 PM »
What size did you get, i have been trying to get a set of 18s but they are out.
If you mean the K180s I had to order them from Japan. That's where they come from in the first place these days. Nobody stateside in flattrack land seems to know when they're coming in (A&A) is out of 19s too.
I got both tires from these guys:
http://japan.webike.net/products/1759941.html
Really smooth deal, came to Canada in about a week. I left a positive review for them in the "good sellers" column.
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Re: My cafe project progress
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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #137 on: March 11, 2011, 06:58:08 AM »
No i mean the shouldered excel rims.
http://www.buchananspokes.net/products/excel_shouldered_aluminum_rims.asp
The front is a 19 x 2.15 40 hole, rear is a 2.5 x 18 40 hole. Both were in stock.
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Re: My cafe project progress
« Reply #138 on: March 11, 2011, 08:53:41 AM »
Can you remove the toe piece from the lever and reverse it, or, if the right side lever is a mirror image, swap it to the left side? If so, you can rotate the transmission lever (I would position it at about 5:00) and run the rod underneath. All those bends may lead to "springy" shifting; try to keep the bends to a minimum. Also, I would not rely on a single frame clamp to mount a foot peg, if that's what you are thinking.  
You were right, plus I hated the look of what I had done. Did some digging on the board and found a much more stable way of mounting the pegs and fabbed ned linkages with heim joints and stainless rod.

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I know that you already solved this issue by buying a different rearset kit, but I think that the way to use the bike stem and resolve the rotation problem would be to use a stem for oversized handlebars and weld a spacer with tabs.

A stem for a large diameter handlebar (31.8mm or approx 1.25 in I believe) would probably be too big for the CB frame tube and require a sleeve to fit. Rather than just using a removeable sleeve, make a spacer with tabs (think half of an airplane fuselage with stubby wings), weld it where you need it to be on the frame then bolt up the stem through the holes. You could even make the spacer a bit taller than the actual stem and make slots or multiple holes in order to get to vertical adjustment.

You could also weld the space to the front part of the frame, get rid of the detachable part of the stem and just bot directly to the tabs. However, I think that sacrifices some strength.
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