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Offline xruss

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Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« on: January 18, 2011, 07:36:05 PM »
In the process of rebuilding my carbs, I had a stuck float bowl drain plug.  I tried PB on it, then tried some heat.  I ended up shearing the head off the screw. 

I searched, but found no replacement screws listed online.  I know I'll need to tap out the old screw.  I don't have any experience in doing so and am nervous about screwing up the threads and causing a fuel leak. 

Anyone able to suggest a source for a replacement?  Any other concerns I should have?

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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 01:51:02 AM »
Keep an eye out in the parts for sale , and also put up a thread in 'wanted to buy'  float bowl with drain plug.  Someone here will surely set you up for a few bucks ???.
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 04:31:35 AM »
Your '76 carbs use the same drain screws as the carbs on the CB500. Sirius sells them complete with O ring. They also have a pack of 2 for half the money, if you don't want to replace all four.
http://www.siriusconinc.com/pro_detail-honda_cb350f_cb400f_cb500_gl1000_float_drain_screws-39-1093.htm
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 06:31:52 AM »
Chickenman, you are the man...and a chicken, I guess.  Thanks so much for the link.  Still not sure how I'm going to get the old plug shaft out, but I have PB soaking on it and I'll give it a go tonight. 
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 06:50:09 AM »
A tiny little easy-out.
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 06:56:22 AM »
a tiny left-hand drill bit.  ;)
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 07:19:10 AM »
If the float bowl is the same from a 350F-1 then I'll give you one for nothing. Bowl and screw. PM me if interested

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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 07:33:37 AM »
Thanks, Gnat.  Honestly, I don't know if they are the same size between the 350 and 550.  Maybe someone else can chime in on that.  I might take you up on that offer.  First, let me see if I can get the other two screws removed with no problems.  I rebuilt the first carb, sheared that screw on the second, and have two more to go.  If I can get the others off, I'll take you up on that offer.  If I end up with the same problem on any others, I'll order a new set of screws and replace them all. 

I have another question on fuel line.  I've searched for cb550 fuel line and see everything from 3/8, 1/4, 5/16, 5.5 mm and 5.3 mm listed as appropriate lines.  It seems most of the references are for 1/4" line.  I found this blue/green clear line for .99/ft.
http://www.crc2onlinecatalog.com/Index_Main_Frame.htm

Anyone have any experience on this line, or other places I should check out?

Thanks.
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 07:36:59 AM »
350 and 550 are probably the same drain screw, not carb bowl.

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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 07:46:43 AM »
xruss

You might want to try the ATF/Acetone (50-50 mix) on the others before you try to get 'em out. Fingernail polish remover is usually Acetone.

Those plugs are very easily snapped off (don't ask how I know).
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 07:52:44 AM »
Gaither, when you say ATF, do you mean Automatic Transmission Fluid?  Mix that 50/50 with finger nail polish remover, huh?  Should I be using something like this mix rather than PB?
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 08:28:55 AM »
Well your welcome to the screws if they are the same...I just rebuilt my set and have gobs of leftovers from a set I robbed.

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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2011, 08:32:16 AM »
got a complete 550 bowl and screw if you want it

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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2011, 08:34:04 AM »
Yes that is what Gaither ment ;)

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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2011, 08:35:49 AM »
Gaither, when you say ATF, do you mean Automatic Transmission Fluid?  Mix that 50/50 with finger nail polish remover, huh?  Should I be using something like this mix rather than PB?
sounds like a meth lab  ;D

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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2011, 09:05:03 AM »
Well your welcome to the screws if they are the same...I just rebuilt my set and have gobs of leftovers from a set I robbed.

Gnat

I might send you a few bucks for some 350 carb junk.
Gaither, when you say ATF, do you mean Automatic Transmission Fluid?  Mix that 50/50 with finger nail polish remover, huh?  Should I be using something like this mix rather than PB?
sounds like a meth lab  ;D
Much Cheaper and more bang for the buck than pb. ATF has good detergent and penetrating qualities.
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2011, 09:42:37 AM »
Is brass softer than that potmetal they use for the bowls ?      If you're careful, you should be able to drill it out.
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2011, 10:48:03 AM »
McMaster-Carr has a number of easy-out extractors and extractor + left hand drill sets.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#easy-out-extractors/=ansk66

Not very expensive, around $30. A set of extractors seems to be pretty essential on 30+ year old bikes.

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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2011, 10:56:50 AM »
PB is PB Blaster, a penetrating oil - http://blastercorporation.com/display.cfm?p=50003&pid=4

Anyone notice my question on fuel line a few posts up?  Looking for some guidance on size and quality.  Thanks.
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2011, 12:45:20 PM »
I found this blue/green clear line for .99/ft.
I've never had any problems with this line.
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2011, 12:49:59 PM »
Sounds like Nickandkristy02 just saved your bacon. You don't know what condition the threads are in even if you get the old screw out. Just buy another bowl as offered and get back on the road.
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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2011, 05:43:36 PM »
Thanks, Bollingball, you're correct - that's what I meant.

xruss, Auto Trans Fluid mixed 50/50 with Acetone is evidently (from a chart on here somewhere) far better than most if not all penetrating oil/s.

There was quite a lot on this recently when Nortstudio was attempting to remove a very stubborn brake bleeder screw - and this mix got it out.

Sounds a bit strange, but it really works. The combination penetrates very well and the Acetone quickly evaporates, leaving the ATF in the threads (or whatever you're attempting to get free.

FWIW, this mix was not my idea - just something else I learned from these great fellows on this Forum.

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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 05:53:20 PM »
I have another question on fuel line.  I've searched for cb550 fuel line and see everything from 3/8, 1/4, 5/16, 5.5 mm and 5.3 mm listed as appropriate lines.  It seems most of the references are for 1/4" line.  I found this blue/green clear line for .99/ft.
http://www.crc2onlinecatalog.com/Index_Main_Frame.htm

Anyone have any experience on this line, or other places I should check out?

Thanks.

Ask your local shop if they carry fuel line in bulk. BTW, your bike will not mind if the fuel line comes from Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, or Kawasaki.


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Re: Float Bowl Drain Plug Sheared 76 cb550k
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 06:29:17 PM »
nickandchristy02, I sent you a pm.  Thanks.

Thanks to all for the fuel line info.
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