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CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« on: March 24, 2011, 05:55:03 PM »
So it has come time that my wife's bike need a little bit of love. I figure that I might as well document the process. AND, since we all love pictures:


It's a 1978 CB400Tii, the Hawk. I had replaced the head gasket a few years ago and when I did so it upset the cylinder base gasket which started to leak. This has caused some really nasty discoloring on the top of the engine case:


Since I have to pull down the top end, I figure it might not be a bad plant to clean the whole thing up while I'm at it.


I figure that a little elbow grease, some Brillo pads, a buffing wheel and some grey paint will do the little engine wonders.
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 08:50:07 AM »
Looking forward to it! My dad's third bike was a hawk. I hope the chance to ride one someday. Seems like it would be fun.

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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 06:46:15 PM »
Engine out and beside the bike.


Some better pictures of what I hope to make look better:


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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2011, 01:04:17 PM »
My new toy.  ;D


Helped turn this:


Into this:
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2011, 01:21:41 PM »
Nice work on the cover, and the 400/450 twins were great bikes-fairly light, very reliable and  quick. In this high gas economy it is a really economical commuter...Larry

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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2011, 07:05:44 PM »
what kinda polish did you use on that cover? Looks great!!!

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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 07:05:12 PM »
Rouge polish compound with a knit buffing wheel.
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2011, 04:00:33 AM »
Been delayed in the cylinders. They were stuck pretty good and did not want to come off. I finally got them off, though. A 1"x1"x1' piece of PT wood and a sledge hammer finally did the trick and didn't break any fins.  ;D  Heat was the next thing to try, but it looks like I won't have to go that far. Tuesday is my next day off, so it looks like I will be back to grind stone (or buffing wheel... as it were...) on Tuesday.
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 12:22:16 PM »
Down to the crank case - and a bit of a before and after on cleaning up the pistons:


Head and jugs:


And a bit of before and after of the combustion chambers:


There was a TON of carbon build up in that engine. This is going to be like giving an asthmatic new lungs.
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2011, 10:10:06 AM »
Okay, I've got a small problem. The o-rings that go around the cylinders don't fit. DO you think I'd be okay going without them? Or should I order new ones from Honda?
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2011, 04:38:28 PM »
Okay, I've got a small problem. The o-rings that go around the cylinders don't fit. DO you think I'd be okay going without them? Or should I order new ones from Honda?

Did the old ones stretch?  Not sure why but Honda has them there for a reason, possibly to prevent blow by at the outer sleeve...Larry

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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 06:51:09 PM »
Block is looking better:


So is the head.


I thought about painting it black, but since I haven't really done any work to it, I figured I'd leave it silver.

Got the day off from work tomorrow. With any luck I'll have the engine mostly back together and back in the frame.
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2011, 06:09:45 PM »
Valve cover painted.


And back in the frame:
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2011, 05:06:01 AM »
Finally got back to the bike. Our trip to Americade is coming up so I had to get cracking on it.

I'm pretty happy with the results:


All together now...


It's not a huge thing, but it certainly does look nicer and it should run a little better now that I have scraped all the carbon build up out of the thing.  ;D

Next step is new fork seals and tires and I am good to go.
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2011, 06:18:52 AM »
So did you start it up and run it yet? Any leaks or all good to go? I would really love to try one of those bikes sometime. I like the way their engines sound.
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2011, 06:14:48 PM »
Started it up, ran it around the neighborhood for a quick ride. I really need to do a carb sync now, though. The rubber manifolds have an o-ring between them and the head. One of them was cracked and had shrunk leaving about a 1 cm gap. I've got a feeling that it didn't help the balance of the engine much.
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Re: CB400T Refresh - Spring Project
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2011, 11:15:22 AM »
Brought the bike in for judging at the Americade rally in Lake George, NY. I think I got robbed out of 3rd place (first and second were deserving winners), but I take home as a prize the fact that I think more people stopped and looked over our little '78 Honda 400 then the 1930's Indian that it was parked next to.  8) ;D ;D

Plus, on the ride to AND FROM the judging, I had other riders pull up next to me and comment on the bike. We may not have a trophy to hang on the wall, but I will certainly take the attention that I got as a prize.  8)
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