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Almost everyone here knows Rita
« on: March 28, 2011, 01:26:22 AM »
Or at least knows of her, lolol. Now that the time is upon me and parts are flowing in, I can start the real thread for her restoration to a previously unknown glory. Attached is a pic of Rita just after I had to park her due to an oil line blowing on me. Overall the pics shows her as I got her two years previously excepting the rear fender, tail light, handlebars, and paint. The new and advanced incarnation of Rita has a new front end, new 836 pistons and top end, new gas tank, new seat, new sprockets, new ignition and wiring throughout, and a whole new paint job.

I will soon have pics of how Rita sits now, though I am almost ashamed to show her in the current condition she is in. Rest assured that all too soon she will soon show all the signs of returning glory and you will see as time goes by how well the work goes along.

Now, where did I put that darn camera?

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Re: Almost everyone here knows Rita
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 11:46:56 PM »
Well, dove in today and got Rita unwrapped for the first time since getting her moved here. You wouldn't believe how many spiders made her a home, lolol. Got most of it swept out and cleaned up then got it propped up a bit higher on blocks to make it easier to work on. Even got a happy surprise, I grabbed the kick starter and gave it a push and it spun nice and smooth so I will have even less trouble pulling the jugs than I had hoped, I half expected it to be a lot stiffer or even frozen after almost 5 years of sitting, then I remembered I used a little Marvels in each spark plug hole when I was checking compression right after I parked it.

Cyls 2 and 3 had 30 pounds compression where as 1 and 4 were up around 120 so it's why I decided to pull the jugs in the first place, with the marvels the compression in 2 and 3 jumped to 90.

Tomorrow I will be too busy but I hope to get the exhaust pipes pulled, and maybe the head and jugs on Friday. I took a couple pics but I have to find the camera cord so I can transfer the pics to my computer. as soon as I find the cord I will post so you all can see where I am at and what condition Rita is sitting at right now. I hope to have the new forks mounted up by next Friday, I am waiting for neck bearings from CycleX right now and hope they get here early next week.

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Re: Almost everyone here knows Rita
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2011, 11:58:08 PM »
Found my camera cable, here are the two pics I took today. Rest assured, she looks worse than she is, and with me she will soon start to show her true colors once again.
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Re: Almost everyone here knows Rita
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 12:15:59 AM »
Good luck with the build Jeff, i bet she'll look like brand new in no time.....
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2011, 03:38:28 AM »
G'Day Jeff, well done mate, I look forward to seeing how your rebuild progresses. What kind of frame is that? I'm gonna build a CB750 chop one day, I remember looking at lots of cool CB750 chops in the old "Iron Horse" magazine back in the 1970's before it became just another Harley rag, you don't see many now, which is a shame, the CB750 engine is possibly the only Japanese engine that looks cool in a chopper frame. Look after yourself mate, and post lots of pics! Cheers, Terry.   ;D
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Re: Almost everyone here knows Rita
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2011, 03:49:32 AM »
I am the third or fourth owner but from what I learned from the owner before me  the first owner in San Francisco did the frame himself from a stock frame. The neck is rock solid so I think a thick steel plate was welded in there to firm it up then molded with bondo to shape it smooth.

From what I understand, unless you are a top notch welder, it would be better to find a company built frame, Amen Saviour, Chopperguys, CycleX, etc. Focus a lot of attention on the neck and backbone, then the seat area, I am still trying to figure out how I am going to attach a seat to Rita, but I am sure something will come to me by the time I am ready for it.
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Re: Almost everyone here knows Rita
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2011, 04:42:54 AM »
Oh God! Another build thread that I'll have to follow...

When am I ever going to get any work done?    ;D
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2011, 05:18:01 AM »
Cool, Jeff.  Is that the picture of you and Rita?  I look forward to hearing Rita run.

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Re: Almost everyone here knows Rita
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2011, 10:42:25 AM »
Oh God! Another build thread that I'll have to follow...

When am I ever going to get any work done?    ;D

Well, you don't HAVE to follow this one, lolol, if it's interfering with work and all, lol.

Cool, Jeff.  Is that the picture of you and Rita?  I look forward to hearing Rita run.

Yup, it's the one and the same pic you took right before the West Coast Meet and Greet back in June of 2006. It's been my treasured pic since then. Thanks millions for it.
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Re: Almost everyone here knows Rita
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2011, 02:28:11 AM »
How is it that parts put away for safekeeping seem to be missing when you are finally ready to start needing them? I live in a 24 foot trailer so my storage options are very limited and I have already plundered the three places I stored the bulk of my parts and spares. Oh well, there is always tomorrow to search more nooks and crannies I don't remember stashing items. ::)
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2011, 12:49:00 AM »
Well, started the tear down of my old carbs tonight. To start with all the bowl gaskets are fried, baked and roasted. Once I was able to get the bowls off I also noticed something weird, the number 4 carb was missing the slow jet. Not in the bowl, nowhere. Gee, wonder why number four cyl was running bad when I parked it. I pulled all the float pins out and checked over all the floats and they all look fairly new, only one had any kind of residue on it, and that cleaned up easily. Then, I got my thin screwdriver out to start pulling all the jets only to find every single one of them loose. I pulled all four mains and the three remaining slows all out by finger. Two mains and one slow jet had a little damage to the slot but all are clear and clean. The float needles and seats are very clean and clear as well.

Now for the bad part, the slides are all extremely stiff and one is not moving at all. I was only able to get three to move and only about an 8th of an inch. The rocker is also very stiff so need to hit it with some penetrating oil to see if it will loosen up.

I need to let it sit outside for the night and hopefully the spiders vacate them. I just put them in a box and sprayed a few paper towels with Raid spider killer. I will continue the tear down tomorrow with the slides. I want to take my time with them, I don't want to accidentally damage them in case I can make a complete set with new jets and some cleaning, depends on what else I find when I pull the slides.

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Re: Almost everyone here knows Rita
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2011, 02:00:06 AM »
My bet is that them tricky spiders have been unscrewing your jets Jeff. ;D I wouldn't leave them outside or them pesky critters will flog another slow jet! ;)
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2011, 04:01:26 AM »
I gotta leave them outside, I get sick smelling bug killer, my workbench is my computer table here, I don't have a workshop I work in so kinda limited, lol.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2011, 04:04:40 AM »
The best part which I forgot to tell you about is that the Carb rubbers that mount them to the head are in almost new condition. Still nice and supple, no cracking or splitting, even where the bands tighten to hold them in place. What a stroke of luck!!!
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2011, 01:00:17 PM »
Hey Jeff, Good to see you are finally able to get the scoot back together. Just wanted to tell ya.....I got a coupla parts bikes last year up in Groveland (71' & 74'). Last week I started tinkering with the 74' and the carbs were stuck. I took them off and laid the whole rack down in one of those Rubbermaid bins and sprayed the hell outa the slides with WD40. About an hour later...I flipped the rack over and sprayed the hell outa the other side. About an hour later they moved like they were never even stuck. You may wanna try that instead of forcing anything apart. I always worry about taking the float pins out but it sounds like you already got that stage done. Good luck with it.
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2011, 01:19:14 PM »
For stiff/stuck slides, heat the carb bodies with a heat gun, they will loosen for removal, with little effort.

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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2011, 01:19:39 AM »
Yep, what TT said, and what Fred said too, heat 'em up and squirt them with a generous coat of WD40 Jeff, and they'll work like new! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2011, 03:22:03 AM »
Well, I pulled them inside, moved my keyboard to the side, and started with the old carbs tonight. I sprayed them thoroughly with WD several times today but didn't try to get them to move until I sat down with them. Almost immediately the one stiff carb moved smoothly, it only hesitated for a couple of mm before it slid free. I rocked the throttle bar up and down several times and all four moved almost as smooth as glass.

I removed the bracket and gently pulled the choke connectors apart, then pulled the carbs apart. The first thing I found was a bunch of green crud real thick on the fuel intake T tubes. I cleaned that all up and set those aside, then started pulling the tops off of each carb in turn.

I started with the carb that didn't want to move and after working it in and out several times it finally slid all the way out. There was a ton of crud on the top of the slide, so much that it concealed the screws that hold the top rod in place. I finally dug enough out to get a screwdriver on the screws and with a little finesse got them to come out without stripping them. I then slid out the needle and started cleaning all the parts with NevrDull and a wire brush. No, I didn't use a wire brush on the slides ;D  There was some kind of white film on the slide and it took quite a while with the NevrDull to get all the film off and the slides as clean as a whistle. Using paper towels and a pick I cleaned the inside of the slide repeatedly until the towels came out clean. I used the wire brush to clean the rod bracket, screws and then wiped out the insides of the carb until those towels also came out clean.

Once all the crud and rust was removed from each and every part, I started putting that carb back together. The top rubber gasket was still soft and pliable so I didn't see a problem with putting it back in, then tightened everything back up again. The slide moved so smoothly I figured I must have done something right, lolol.

After the first carb was done and set aside, I started pulling the slides out of the other three in turn. None of the others had any rust or crud buildup, but all four slides had that white film on them. To the finger it was kinda rough, almost like a salt film, but harder. Eventually I got the rest as clean as the first and put them all back together, then when I started putting the choke connecting bars back on I realized the cotter pins were beyond saving, two broke while removing and I didn't trust the others. I'll go to Ace tomorrow to get a set of new pins and reconnect the chokes. I remounted the carbs back into the bracket and saw that the throttle cable wings were bent and not aligned with the cable mounts. I realigned those while I was at it and wiped the carbs down one mare time for good measure.

I'll have to remove the bracket to put the choke connecting bars back in place but it was a great experience pulling everything apart, cleaning everything, and putting it all back together. I can now go to sleep and feel I really accomplished something, something I was really worried about. I've never had much luck when working with carbs and since I wasn't planning on using the old carbs again, I didn't feel bad about experimenting on them. I knew I had to be careful, and I was. Nothing got stripped or cross threaded, and I don't see why someone can't use these in the future. They aren't polished, don't look brand new on the outside, but they are clean and move very well. The bowl gaskets obviously need to be replaced, it needs new slow and main jets and probably new floats and needles, but if someone is interested in them, let me know. The carb numbers are 657B. I will include the floats, needles and seats if they are wanted. The bowls are all pretty clean and fit well onto the carbs and all the bowl holders are there and look to be in good condition.

More to come soon,

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2011, 01:00:25 AM »
Well, got absolutely nothing done today, I woke up so stuffed up and hot I thought I was being cooked for thanksgiving. Don't have a clue how I came down with a cold this bad that fast, no one I know is suffering. Plus, I just got over a cold a few weeks ago so shouldn't I have some resistance?

Going back to bed and hoping against hope I feel better tomorrow. Still waiting for parts from Cycle Exchange.
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2011, 11:19:11 PM »
Didn't get much done today, finally got the parts from CycleX and installed the races, but didn't mount up the forks cuz I still feel lousy.

The first two pics are my new forks, the second two are of my old carbs, note the slow jet missing in the first one?

Hopefully I'll feel better tomorrow and actually get something done, otherwise I am going to stay in bed and try to sleep the cold gone.
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2011, 07:27:45 PM »
Well, feel better today so I went out and got a new front tire mounted and the front wheel mounted on the new forks. Everything is trued and balanced, and all I need for the front brake is a braided brake line and fluid.

That said, tomorrow will be the BIG DAY, the day Rita gets back on two wheels. I should have enough time tomorrow to get the front end mounted and torqued, as well as mounting the risers and handlebars, maybe even get started on some rewiring. Will also get the headlight and turn signals mounted and wired as well.

Still having problems finding those tiny cotter pins for the choke links. Everywhere I have gone so far haven't had anything close. Might have to find an alternative to the split pin, maybe a spring clip or stay wire, don't know yet, but I am holding out hope.

More to come soon, pics when I get the front end mounted.
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2011, 08:54:28 AM »
Don't suppose you kept the old front end did ya? ;) Looks like you're making good progress, looking forward to the finished product!

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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2011, 12:51:58 PM »
No, I didn't keep the old front end, another friend was in need of a 12 inch over springer for a build he was doing so I gave it to him. I was more than happy to part with it since I knew I was going up to a 16 over to prevent my exhaust from scraping every time I made a turn, lol.
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2011, 05:53:29 PM »
Geez I love that new springer Jeff, where did you find that? Cheers, Terry.  ;D
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2011, 12:18:07 AM »
Got it from an Ebay seller named Mototeks, they worked a deal with me since I can't use Paypal so I ordered straight from them over the phone. Look them up on Ebay, they have TONS of awesome bike stuff for sale, though not so much for the metric crowd, they are geared more towards the American market. Can provide contact details if you want, though they list their phone number on Ebay listings. Below is a link to my springer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHROME-DNA-SPRINGER-FRONT-END-16-OVER-STOCK-LENGTH-/290527331041?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a4c742e1
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