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Offline Bankerdanny

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Make a couple of jumpers with 3 or 4 cm of 16 gauge wire and a couple of spade terminals. The ignitions switches are a weak spot (as I found out last Saturday, see my post here: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=92602.0). The switch terminal is easily hot wired to get you back on the road if you know how. The second jumper is to make sure that your lights also work.
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I try to pack spare tubes (and of course tire irons, patches & pump).
 I am mentioning this because as I found out in 09 its getting harder to get a good choice of 18 inch tires and sometimes tubes, and 19 inch are getting less common.
 You pack one tube, your buddy the other.

+1. An air pump (even a bicycle pump works) is good if you get a slow flat in the middle of nowhere...been there done that. You can blow it up every 10 miles or so. Even if you cant change your own tire having a puncture repair kit and tubes will really help you out if you can find a garage to get the tube out.

I have had so many front and rear tire punctures on CB750s its not funny anymore....if you do feel the front end get a little slow/heavy in corners stop and check your tire pressure. I have successfully stopped from 70mph twice now (separate incidents) with the front tire going down rapidly. I dont recommend it. I thumb check my tires every time I ride now.

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« Last Edit: July 22, 2011, 09:00:15 AM by andy750 »
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1. CB750K4: Long distance bike, 17 countries and counting...2001 - Trans-USA-Mexico, 2003 - European Tour, 2004 - SOHC Easy Rider Trip , 2008 - Adirondack Tour 2-up , 2013 - Tail of the Dragon Tour , 2017: 836 kit install and bottom end rebuild. And rebirth: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173213.msg2029836.html#msg2029836
2. CB750/810cc K2  - road racer with JMR worked head 71 hp
3. Yamaha Tenere T700 2022

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Mark, have you heard about the relay? Depending on your timing, perhaps you could ride along with other riders heading west.

+100 on that.....
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Great advise from the well travelled !!..... did anyone mention to be sure whatever hand-tools you are carrying will actually open those screws/nuts/bolts when you need to ! An overtightened points cover that the Philips head your carrying won't open is not good in the middle of nowhere !!Use the tools you will carry to snug-up screws, tighten the axel nut etc. before you leave... bon voyage  :)
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rather than a pump, get a CO2 cartridge kit. I have carried these for year on my bicycle. They are easy to use and can refill your tire to an acceptable level in minutes.

You can get the basic chuck at any bicycle shop. Make sure it is compatible with mountain bike style Shrader valves, which is what is also used on motorcycles and cars, and not just the road bike Presta valve.

A couple 16 or 24oz cartridges will get a rideable amount of pressure in a MC tire. They make larger 45g cartridges for motorccyle applications, but you would probably have to order one on-line to get them. They might be available at paintball supply stores too.
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I was planning on replacing the points system with an electronic ignition before leaving, and bring along spare spark plugs, fuses, an oil filter, I've got new carb boots that I'll throw on, spare bulbs, and some length of wire. Any other spare parts that you would recommend I bring along?
Id suggest servicing the points before the trip rather than introducing a new system that may or may not need debugging.  When is the trip?
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The trip starts August 9th, so I have a couple weeks to get everything in order, order any spare parts online, etc. I've actually got one of those CO2 systems for my bicycle that fits the right valve style, Just need some larger capacity cartridges now. That's a nice coincidence!

As for the relay, is this part of the SOHC4 world tour I've seen mentioned? Definitely will have to look into that!

Good call on spare gas line, I'll add that to the pack. And just ordered spare tubes as well.

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they are one and the same, the World Tour is also the Relay Rally
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Ill add this recent experience (last weekend in fact)....was riding in western Mass with some other SOHC riders and found I couldnt shift down or up. Shifter was stuck. I knew exactly what it was as it has happened to me a couple of times before. One of the 3 screws that hold the shifter bearing in place had backed itself out and got stuck in the gear shift mechanism.

Lucky for me I replaced all my philips screws with allen-head bolts and once the bike had cooled down a little I removed the shifter cover, tightened the screw (different one to previous times) and buttoned the cover back up again. Went on my way for a further 250+ miles of trouble free riding that day. The chances of getting that cover off if I had the philips screws there without stripping them and with no impact driver may have been an issue....

Just something to consider...allen-head bolts are on both my bikes.

Trouble with the CO2 catridges v manual pump is if you have a flat miles from anywhere and you have to stop every now and again to inflate tire you are going to run out of C02 pretty fast...not so with a manual bicycle pump or...as I have for the VStrom a battery operated air pump - v. small that connects to the battery.

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Andy
« Last Edit: July 22, 2011, 10:18:37 AM by andy750 »
Current bikes
1. CB750K4: Long distance bike, 17 countries and counting...2001 - Trans-USA-Mexico, 2003 - European Tour, 2004 - SOHC Easy Rider Trip , 2008 - Adirondack Tour 2-up , 2013 - Tail of the Dragon Tour , 2017: 836 kit install and bottom end rebuild. And rebirth: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173213.msg2029836.html#msg2029836
2. CB750/810cc K2  - road racer with JMR worked head 71 hp
3. Yamaha Tenere T700 2022

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Offline jneuf

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Swapping to allen-head bolts is a great idea....something I need to do. I have so many stripped screws on my bike(s) it's not even funny.

Sounds like your bike is well on it's way to making the trip! If you're ever looking for someone to join you on a ride out here, let me know. I feel like I haven't put enough miles on my bike recently...
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Swapping to allen-head bolts is a great idea....something I need to do. I have so many stripped screws on my bike(s) it's not even funny.

Sounds like your bike is well on it's way to making the trip! If you're ever looking for someone to join you on a ride out here, let me know. I feel like I haven't put enough miles on my bike recently...

That sounds great! I don't know anyone who rides, let alone knows anything about these bikes, so I'd definitely be up for a ride. Maybe next week or something. I'll PM you to work it out.

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The trip starts August 9th, so I have a couple weeks to get everything in order, order any spare parts online, etc.
With the trip that close, I'd strongly suggest just servicing the points and not messing with it any further until after the trip.
Life is precious: wear your f'n helmet!
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FWIW, I'm not a shill for Race Tech - I've just got a thing for good suspension and the RTCE's are the most cost-effective mod for these old damping rod front ends.

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Swapping to allen-head bolts is a great idea....something I need to do. I have so many stripped screws on my bike(s) it's not even funny.

Sounds like your bike is well on it's way to making the trip! If you're ever looking for someone to join you on a ride out here, let me know. I feel like I haven't put enough miles on my bike recently...

That sounds great! I don't know anyone who rides, let alone knows anything about these bikes, so I'd definitely be up for a ride. Maybe next week or something. I'll PM you to work it out.

Sounds good. I'm in the exact situation...none of my friends ride, or know anything about these bikes in general. This forum is my source of info for all things CB related!

I'm around for most of the week next week, with a now running (although out of tune) cb550 that is begging to be ridden. Shoot me a PM whenever you're up for a ride.
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I rode a 750 K1 from Miami, Florida to Washington DC, stayed a week, and then rode it back to Miami - almost.  It broke down in the middle of Georgia but the problem was of my own doing - it was electrical. I had replaced the stock bars with something taller while I was in DC and screwed up the wiring and it wasn't charging.  The battery lasted a surprisingly long time.  That was way back in '71.

Since that one I have taken a lot of long trips on bikes, most recently a 9 day tour of my own state, camping at State Parks all the way.  This is the two recommendations I have to make to you.  First, find a way to tie down everything more securely than you ever thought might be necessary and second; have rain gear immediately available.
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back in '03 a local garage owner gave me a cb500-4 that a customer had left at his shop for a couple of yrs and never came back for.
I took it home and parked it at the edge of the driveway til the following spring.
that spring I litterally pulled the bike out of the ding weeds cleaned the carbs,set the points and was off on a 5000 mile ride.
this bike had weather checked original 1972 tires,original factory chain and sprockets,
bike had 2100 original miles but looked like it went through the war.
during that trip i replaced the rear sprocket,chain,the rack that the carbs bolt to(was cracked),a tail light bulb,a head light bulb,a rear tire,(got 14000 miles out of the front one),and the seat only because of comfort.
I started out from upstate NY, stopped in NC for the smokeout(the rear tire was replaced there after a burn out that blew it),and on to Key west,back to Orlando,then over to texas,back to Oklahoma then back to NY.

had a lot of fun.

with the way you describe your bike,with all you have put into it,
I would not hesitate to take it on a world tour.
But then anything that needs fixin I can do myself,so if you arent "that guy" who can fix it take a credit card with a big balance of usable cash on it, and get a GOOD rainsuit,
not a wal mart cheapie cause they dont hold up.

have fun on your ride take lots of pics to share and remember everyone on the road IS out to get you so dont let your attention wander,ride like you are invisible to others because you are,cars dont look out for bikers.

if you get into a situation where you need an escape route have one planned and ready.
ex: a car suddenly slamms its brakes on in front of you,you cant stop,where do you go?
into the back end of the car?to the ditch?the passing lane(if no one is coming)?

I ride in an aggressive/defensive manner to make my presence known to other drivers
and keep a small ball peen hammer clipped to the bars for the #$%*s who try to kill me on the road. bust enuf windshields and those drivers will watch for bikes from then on.
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and keep a small ball peen hammer clipped to the bars for the #$%*s who try to kill me on the road. bust enuf windshields and those drivers will watch for bikes from then on.

Many times I've wanted to do this. I'd be worried though that they'd try and run me down if I busted their glass.
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usually the pos that needs to be hammered is so surprised that they immediately back off the gasand wonder where the hell I came from.
in 40 yrs of riding I have only had one run in with an angry driver after busting his windshield, and when I got off the bike and stood up to him he folded and admitted he didnt see me or even look as he changed lanes,saw him a few weeks later and he waved at me to make sure I knew he saw me.

a pocket full of ball bearings works too,get past them if they didnt kill ya and toss a few over your shoulder they bounce  real good,take out windows , radiators etc...
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I feel I should add that these measures are last resort,another thing I've done is to fill small balloons with old motor oil,slightly less destructive.

cell phone users while driving are the worst hazard we face these days...
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usually the pos that needs to be hammered is so surprised that they immediately back off the gasand wonder where the hell I came from.
in 40 yrs of riding I have only had one run in with an angry driver after busting his windshield, and when I got off the bike and stood up to him he folded and admitted he didnt see me or even look as he changed lanes,saw him a few weeks later and he waved at me to make sure I knew he saw me.

a pocket full of ball bearings works too,get past them if they didnt kill ya and toss a few over your shoulder they bounce  real good,take out windows , radiators etc...

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I feel I should add that these measures are last resort,another thing I've done is to fill small balloons with old motor oil,slightly less destructive.
And I feel I should add that you can kill someone doing this kind of stuff and only a world-class a-hole would even consider it - only a psychopath would actually do it.
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I feel I should add that these measures are last resort,another thing I've done is to fill small balloons with old motor oil,slightly less destructive.

cell phone users while driving are the worst hazard we face these days...

Yeah, just what someone  needs, ride around on the bike with balloons full of oil in their pocket.  Or I suppose you could have a basket on the handlebars like a little girl's bicycle. ;)  I think the beer has been talking here.  I wonder how long you would survive getting involved in arguments with 4000 pound cars and their drivers  with road rage so common.  Not to mention that it would be easy to get your license plate and you would be arrested in short order.  Along with the ball bearing story the worst advice I have seen here in a long time.

We all have encounters with cars with inattentive drivers and honestly sometimes they just don't see you if you are traveling in their blind spot.  I will use my horn to make them aware of their mistake and move away.  It's dangerous to escalate an argument when you are so vulnerable.  In this case discretion is the better part of bravado. :)
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You made me think about it after I cheered knowing someone else would like to know what these control freaks are up to.
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 What bothers them is they sat up late at night, their breast full of wonder and estrogen, unable to sleep, dreaming about their lovely darling and all her glory... and next thing you know someone else doesn't share their emotional deluge and their reaction is they must spread their mind museum as far as they possibly can, taking over as much of the real world as possible.

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