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Offline faux fiddy

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Another Frozen piston remedy
« on: November 05, 2011, 03:09:38 AM »
This is like another thread using a puller, but it does not rely on using the puller (or pullers as some have conjectured) on your jugs' cooling fins.

Where one thread said use the fins to hook the puller, another approach is to run a tap down the bolt holes (assuming you can or have removed studs) and attaching the puller with bolts in the holes you have tapped out. Suck or blow out the filings , of course, and screw down the puller with the clean threaded stud channel.  No chance of breaking cooling fins this way.

It took a while, heat and months of tightening and letting it sit along with concotions of ATF, acetone, and Aerocroil. The night it finally started comming  loose a friend was tapping on the puller while I twister the puller. I used a round aluminum slug between the puller and piston as if the piston was not unsaveable junk. Oh yeah, heating things up can't hurt. This was a tough one, the penetrating fluids puked out the exhaust port because the piston was at the bottom of the stroke; unlike the 4 strokes where it just accumuates and pools  on the piston and goes seeping in where you need it.

If it didn't work I woudn't post it here.







This was a stubborn one.  Patience is the key, torque it and leave it. Come back in a week and try it again.  Tap on the puller and twist. If it isn;t working leave it for a while.  This does work.
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Re: Another Frozen piston remedy
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2011, 04:19:47 PM »
Why not just use the propane torch in the cylinders themselves. A little heat on and off with PB Blaster should free rusted rings from the cylinder walls.  Another guy did the ATF gasoline candle and let it burn for an hour.  Same idea.  I would really like to know if anyone has ever tried using a propane torch to free rusty pistons.

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Re: Another Frozen piston remedy
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2012, 01:22:32 AM »
Why not just use the propane torch in the cylinders themselves. A little heat on and off with PB Blaster should free rusted rings from the cylinder walls.  Another guy did the ATF gasoline candle and let it burn for an hour.  Same idea.  I would really like to know if anyone has ever tried using a propane torch to free rusty pistons.

I dunno, this was pretty stuck, and the motor is in the bike so I didn't want to cook the wiring or whatever.
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Re: Another Frozen piston remedy
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 09:39:47 AM »
We just freed up the pistons and removed the cylinders from a CB350F that had been stuck after someone put sugar in the gas.  the #1 piston was glued at TDC and we used the puller method after much scraping of goo from around the piston.  It slowly came free.  It helped to raise the liner and rock it back and forth over a wedged pry bar, but don't try to lever out the cylinder head.

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Re: Another Frozen piston remedy
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 11:22:26 AM »
I would really like to know if anyone has ever tried using a propane torch to free rusty pistons.
I've successfully used a propane torch along with a 2 x 2 and a BFH after soaking I ATF and acetone didn't free it up. I heat it up a little, pound the cylinder with the 2 x 2 and hammer, move to the next, repeat. After a few cycles, things started moving.

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Re: Another Frozen piston remedy
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2013, 02:45:36 AM »
This was a similar method to the one I used recently on my CL72.
I got a piece of angle iron, drilled 2 holes to match diagonally opposite cylinder studs, drilled/tapped an M10 hole for a bolt midway between, a piece of wood between bolt and piston applied the force, with a piece of metal plate to prevent bolt cutting into wood. The chemical I used to break down rust was Coca-Cola, after just over a week of no movement on the worst cylinder I moved to the other and had immediate movement of the piston matched by upward movement of the barrels from the crankcases. I removed the coke and poured in ATF. By then moving between cylinders putting pressure on and light taps on the bolt with a hammer it slowly lifted squarely. The secret I believe is patience, it still took me several hours after the initial movement.
Some pictures below, sorry but Instagram insisted on turning pictures 90degs, there are 2 pictures during on Instagram and 1 after completion on Photobucket.
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The corrosion was bad enough to have eaten the top of the piston and into the cylinder walls on the left side.
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