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Offline camelman

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Parting out Parts on eBay... WHY!!!!
« on: March 21, 2012, 11:06:30 PM »
Why do so many sellers on eBay part out individual parts?  I'm trying to find a rear hub for my 350f build and all I can find are individual pieces such as only the hub, or maybe the brake shoe actuator, or missing a bolt.  This is so frustrating!  Is there really all that much money in parting out "parts"?  Why can't anyone just sell a complete rear brake assembly? 

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Re: Parting out Parts on eBay... WHY!!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 06:29:43 AM »
I think I've got a complete rear brake hub/plate from a 550F.  Not sure off the top of my head if they're interchangable, but if you're interested, I'll find it and post some pics when I get home tonight.
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Re: Parting out Parts on eBay... WHY!!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2012, 07:30:56 AM »
Why do so many sellers on eBay part out individual parts?  I'm trying to find a rear hub for my 350f build and all I can find are individual pieces such as only the hub, or maybe the brake shoe actuator, or missing a bolt.  This is so frustrating!  Is there really all that much money in parting out "parts"?  Why can't anyone just sell a complete rear brake assembly? 

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I've noticed this too. You see a lot less complete assemblies than you used to.
I agree, I often look at ebay and wonder wtf would you tear a reasonably good engine down to its component pieces and try to sell it one bolt and gear at a time?
Imho, the motivation for this behavior is:

1. Profit - The perception that the individual parts are worth more than the whole. (See #3)
2. Lower shipping costs - Higher shipping costs these days discourage buyers and cut into sellers potential profit. Smaller items cost less to ship.
3. Ignorance - The seller just doesn't really understand what they are selling or how to value an item.
(Except if it's from a Honda it's worth gold!) ::)

In many cases I get the impression that a lot of the high-volume sellers are probably just hiring people to tear down the bikes and list the parts.
(mrmonkyclaw comes to mind.)
These people may just assume more parts=more listings=more sales.

The other factor to consider, if a seller is parting out a bike they paid little for they may not care how much of the bike they sell, they just want a quick return.
Tear down a good engine and manage to only sell a couple of gears, just chunk the rest into the scrap bin if it doesn't sell after a period of time.
Who's got space to inventory and store all that stuff?

I dunno, who knows what people are thinking.
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Re: Parting out Parts on eBay... WHY!!!!
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 09:22:26 AM »
Economics and individual demand.  You want a whole assembly, the next guy only needs the bracket or bolt, etc.  Auction items are viwed by thousands of people.  Then there is the shipping weight to consider as mentioned above.  I will often purposefully sell items from sets in two separate auctions so the buyer that wants a complete set has to bid high to get both.  The buyer that wanted one of the item loves me, the buyer that had to have two hates me.  Whatever makes me the most profit.  Ebay isen't a social program. This applies to everything from Pyrex dishes to Honda parts. When asking a question such as this, it might be useful to imagine yourself in the sellers position, not just from a buyers viewpoint.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2012, 09:30:53 AM »
Will a 400F rear brake assy. work?  If so, check out eBay...good luck

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 09:46:12 AM »
One other reason is that someone has an assembly that is damaged or is not complete to begin with. Hub gets damaged so take it apart and sell the stuff that's still good. Makes a better sell than trying to convince someone to buy an incomplete or damaged part.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 09:50:46 AM »
Is there really good money to be made from parting out bikes anyway?  I understand if you have a desirable model but something common like a cb350 twin?  There seems to be so much competition from sellers and the prospect of dismantling, cleaning, taking a picture, listing and shipping seems like a lot of work.
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Re: Parting out Parts on eBay... WHY!!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2012, 10:28:22 AM »
Why do so many sellers on eBay part out individual parts?  I'm trying to find a rear hub for my 350f build and all I can find are individual pieces such as only the hub, or maybe the brake shoe actuator, or missing a bolt.  This is so frustrating!  Is there really all that much money in parting out "parts"?  Why can't anyone just sell a complete rear brake assembly? 

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It IS STUPID.
When someone decides to part out a bike they have already lost.
They loose all the labor it takes to take it apart.
Sometimes you will have to clean the part and photograph the part.
More time of yours spent.
Some people have this idea that if you sell each part you will make more money than selling a complete motorcycle.
Try selling anything now and it is difficult, and then there are the shipping fees and packaging.

I have had trouble selling a brand new item for 1/2 price and free shipping!

Many times on Ebay someone is selling a engine but it has been stripped of carbs ,side cases rotors electrical etc.,. Who wants to have to look for all those parts and make sure they are compatible.
I would rather buy a COMPLETE engine with everything on it, if I am going to build a chopper.

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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2012, 10:34:45 AM »
I just find it frustrating to have to piece together what are typically considered "assemblies".  I know there are reasons why for each situation, but it can be frustrating nonetheless. A couple complete options just showed up on eBay, so it looks like I'm set. I think I still look at eBay as a place to dump spare parts, but it seems like more businesses operate there than private sellers now.

Thanks for the offer nayto550.

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2012, 10:58:44 AM »
 The answer is $$$$ profit.   ;)    The bottom line is....."  GREED ! "

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2012, 01:04:47 PM »
yep profit
some of them even sell them down to the last bolt it's nerve racking then you ask them if the bolts or nuts are with it then say oh i hve them posted on a seperate auction
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2012, 05:10:25 PM »
The answer is $$$$ profit.   ;)    The bottom line is....."  GREED ! "

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Re: Parting out Parts on eBay... WHY!!!!
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2012, 07:44:56 PM »
One other reason is that someone has an assembly that is damaged or is not complete to begin with. Hub gets damaged so take it apart and sell the stuff that's still good. Makes a better sell than trying to convince someone to buy an incomplete or damaged part.
I think this is the case more often than not. When I sold Vintage Stereo on ebay, if I had a unit that crapped out, I would take whatever parts that looked hood and sold them. Good looking parts for a Bang turntable that was shot sold well.
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Re: Parting out Parts on eBay... WHY!!!!
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 10:01:33 PM »
what i particularly love, is when they part the cam caps from the cam towers......WTF is with that...they are a matched pair...


as u say, greed is good...lol


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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2012, 12:09:06 AM »
A: Expensive PITA's  to rebuild and no money to do it. Maximize profit with more parts, maybe an extra buck or two shipping, etc.
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2012, 07:26:40 AM »
Why do so many sellers on eBay part out individual parts?  I'm trying to find a rear hub for my 350f build and all I can find are individual pieces such as only the hub, or maybe the brake shoe actuator, or missing a bolt.  This is so frustrating!  Is there really all that much money in parting out "parts"?  Why can't anyone just sell a complete rear brake assembly? 

Frustrated Camelman

It IS STUPID.
When someone decides to part out a bike they have already lost.
They loose all the labor it takes to take it apart.
Sometimes you will have to clean the part and photograph the part.
More time of yours spent.
Some people have this idea that if you sell each part you will make more money than selling a complete motorcycle.
Try selling anything now and it is difficult, and then there are the shipping fees and packaging.

I have had trouble selling a brand new item for 1/2 price and free shipping!

Many times on Ebay someone is selling a engine but it has been stripped of carbs ,side cases rotors electrical etc.,. Who wants to have to look for all those parts and make sure they are compatible.
I would rather buy a COMPLETE engine with everything on it, if I am going to build a chopper.

Interesting.  I often look for engines that have the externals stripped when I have a problem and don't want to rebuild the engine internally  Swap the parts over and I am riding again.  It is what it is because it works for everyone, kinda.
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Re: Parting out Parts on eBay... WHY!!!!
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2012, 11:22:05 AM »
If you want to buy a complete engine for a chopper, then buy a complete engine for a chopper. If you need some cam towers and whatever else and that's it, then buy it. There are choices and options for everyone. Greed may not be good, but capitalism is. Supply and demand will dictate the market. I for one know that I can make more money parting out an engine that doesn't run than trying to sell it as a boat anchor. And as far as all the labour that goes into parting it out and selling each individual piece, that's a labour of love - and I have no problem making little money off it.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2012, 11:37:20 PM »
As you say, the time spent in dismantling, photographing and listing will probably not be paid off.

But think about this: you want to sell a pair of sidecovers. Would you buy the set, or individually?

If you sell the set, you expect to get twice what you will get for each one alone. That will put off people who just need either one, because they will have to buy the sent and then sell the one they don't need. At the end of the day, it is like if you have put two separate listings.

On the contrary, if you list them separately, the guy who just needs one of then can bid higher for that part, than if he had to buy the set. Chances are somebody else would want it, and the price will rise.

And what happens to the guy that needs both covers? In order to win both auctions -to save shipping costs-, he needs to be the winning bidder in both, so he must outbid the people who need each cover so badly.


From a seller's perspective, it is better to list the items individually. Would you buy a whole bike if you just need a sidecover? Would you buy a full body kit if you just need a sidecover?

Obviously, if we are talking nuts and bolts, selling lots is more convenient.