Author Topic: Lose 1st gear and neutral when warm 1975 CB550  (Read 8025 times)

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Offline cabrala

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Re: Lose 1st gear and neutral when warm 1975 CB550
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2012, 05:41:59 PM »
Matt,

I'd also like to apologize for quasi-hijacking your thread.  :-[
I think a good few of us have read these oil threads, and they can make it difficult to know if one viscosity/brand/type will blow us up or turn us into Superman.

Glad you got your situation under control, though.  :D
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Re: Lose 1st gear and neutral when warm 1975 CB550
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2012, 07:24:43 PM »
As you stated earlier, if the vendor is not publishing withstand temperatures, how would I know (scientifically) that I have surpassed said temperature? What I can tell you, TT, is that recently I have been experiencing some clunky shifting and difficulty finding neutral when the bike is hot.
If you cannot adjust out the dragging clutch, then I'd say to try a different oil.  Clunky shifting and extra wear on the shifter parts trying to find neutral and shift gears WILL wear the machine's shift mechanism out faster.

I have attributed this issue to the oil pump, where I believe my small oil leak is coming from (still inconclusive, but very likely).
A small oil leak is not going effect pressures in the system or hinder circulation.

Jezz, I hate to sound like an oil salesman.  But, why don't you give Honda's HP4 without moly in 10w40 a try?  It certainly won't hurt the engine.  And I've experienced at least 4 Cb550 Hondas, stop or severely reduce dragging the clutch and make shifting much easier.  At worst, you just spent an extra $10-20 on an experiment.  At best, it'll make you a happy rider.  If it weren't for the cost, I'd go to full synthetic all the time.  But, I don't believe the oil change interval can be extended in these motorcycles.

It is not very often that I ride in the city as I do not find the stop-and-go to be enjoyable. Therefore, based on your earlier post, I assume oil can be spoiled on one ride if the temperature of the bike and environment are hot enough. This is all quite fascinating to me and I really appreciate you taking the time to school me.
Yes, it only takes one excursion into high temps to damage oil.  It can be a death spiral is some instances.  Heat damages oil, oil stops lubricating, parts get hotter, cooking oil more, etc., leading to a cooked engine.

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