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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2013, 01:44:18 PM »
Yes, I saw that drawing referenced in one of the forum download service manuals...I bought the bike w/o airbox, so I'm working with what I've got. With all the grief these pods are giving me (and I can't get hold of Brian for an "antipod" system, I'm ready to track down a stock airbox......or just sell the bike and go back to my happy late model sport bike days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2013, 02:35:40 PM »
umm?men dont give men dutch treats for a start,,err,unless thats your thing?thanks anyway but count me out,i dont know what to make of that photo though?youll be hard pressed trying to keep an aussie silent!


now back to prov431,,if your pipe had as much suck as these last few posts youd be alright!


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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2013, 03:18:41 PM »
i was waiting for something like that!

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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2013, 12:20:47 AM »
Please, what is a 'Dutch oven'. As I've said before: I'm here to learn English, e-ven-tu-al-ly.
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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2013, 01:09:55 AM »
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you asked for it.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dutch%20oven

As I read it, all definitions for the same thing: blow-by gas recircled. ;D
« Last Edit: March 03, 2013, 01:28:45 AM by Deltarider »
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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2013, 01:29:28 AM »
yeah so the 550 blow by hose operates on the dutch oven system,not entirely pleasant for the engine,i imagine the small air bleeds in the carb mouth getting clogged after a while,a proper pcv system operates after the throttle into direct vacuum in most systems.

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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2013, 07:21:48 AM »
Yes, I saw that drawing referenced in one of the forum download service manuals...I bought the bike w/o airbox, so I'm working with what I've got. With all the grief these pods are giving me (and I can't get hold of Brian for an "antipod" system, I'm ready to track down a stock airbox......or just sell the bike and go back to my happy late model sport bike days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can understand your frustration with the pod setup... seems like there are quite a few in the same boat. The stock airbox is a challenge in itself to put together; most I've seen on ebay or elsewhere are missing parts, so there's some scrounging to do to actually put one together right - but I'm living proof that it's possible! With the proper air induction set-up, you can return the carbs to factory settings quite easily and (at least reduce) that part of the frustration!

With that said, if you're finding adjustment for pods difficult and are frustrated by the airbox then, yes, you're not likely to have much fun with one of these old bikes. They were made in a time when hands-on fiddling was not only possible but pretty much required! And to try and resurrect one today may be more work than you're willing to do if messing with mechanicals isn't your bag.

The new bikes usually don't need a lot of fooling about with, and you can take them to the dealer for any maintenance work and not get your hands dirty!   ;)

yeah so the 550 blow by hose operates on the dutch oven system,not entirely pleasant for the engine,i imagine the small air bleeds in the carb mouth getting clogged after a while,a proper pcv system operates after the throttle into direct vacuum in most systems.

It's not a PCV system, it's crankcase evacuation, and the holes don't get clogged because the stock airbox has a series of filters that prevent this, at least on a '550!  ;)
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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2013, 08:04:11 AM »
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has a series of filters that prevent this, at least on a '550!
Sure and H2O passes nonetheless and with it... but I'm starting to repeat myself. Those with foam filters probably will not even notice.
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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2013, 08:17:34 AM »
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has a series of filters that prevent this, at least on a '550!
Sure and H2O passes nonetheless and with it... but I'm starting to repeat myself. Those with foam filters probably will not even notice.

The filters are set up to eliminate water, too! There are at least four steps the blow-by goes through before the stuff hits the carbs, specifically designed to reduce the oil and water vapor. I'm not saying it works perfectly as I have no way to measure it; I guess I just have to trust that the engineers at Honda knew what they were doing when they designed the system!  :o ;)
« Last Edit: March 03, 2013, 08:36:55 AM by SohRon »
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Assembling my '74 CB550: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=86697.0
Assembly of the Right-hand Switch (a rebuilder's guide):  http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=80532.0
Installing stock 4X4 exhaust: CB500-CB550 K: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82323.0
CB550 Assembly Manual: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.0.html

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Re: CB550 For those without airbox
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2013, 09:11:16 AM »
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The filters are set up to eliminate water, too!
Sure, but eliminate watervapour (waterdamp?) they won't. I have seen quite a few 550 paper air filter elements that all had that same brownish soft (wettened) spot reducing the elements flow performance. But please test it out and inform us. I wonder how many of you still have the genuine Honda cellulose filter element inside.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2013, 09:16:53 AM by Deltarider »
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