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Offline salukispeed

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Super Bike Bars?
« on: March 27, 2013, 09:34:31 AM »
Anyone tried a set of superbike or euro bars on a 77A? The stock bars make me sit me up too straight for highway travel. I believe the throttle cables and brake hose will be way too long. has anyone found shorter throttle cables that fit the A or should I wait because I am putting together a set of 75 K round top carbs and K model cam for spring testing anyway.
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2013, 09:55:18 AM »
What constitutes a "super bike bar"?

I replaced my handlebar with a much lower bar.  I can take a pic or make a measurement after I get home (on lunch hour right now).

Still using the stock cables - don't recall any routing issues.  The brake hose makes an ugly bend/bulge along its length because it is too long.  When I made the swap, my only goal was function, not looks - so it looks odd.

My bar is actually just a little too low - may go up one inch.  I'm 6'4" with a long torso (have 34" inseam), and I'm bent over just a bit too far.
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Past bikes - Honda: SL350, CX650C, CB900C, CB1000C, CM450A; Kawasaki: several 1972 750 H2's; Suzuki: TC90J.

Bikes I want: CX650ED, a mid-sized japanese V-twin with ABS.

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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2013, 10:49:08 AM »
I am not entirely sure what super bike bars fall into but something lower like a CB400F bars. I am 5'11 and 210 lbs so lower should be good but too low and my fat stomach will sit on the tank. Not a good look or comfortable. 
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2013, 10:50:20 AM »
Do you want a pic?  Just don't make fun of my primer gray tank . . . .
1978 CB750A (upgrading very, very slowly)

Past bikes - Honda: SL350, CX650C, CB900C, CB1000C, CM450A; Kawasaki: several 1972 750 H2's; Suzuki: TC90J.

Bikes I want: CX650ED, a mid-sized japanese V-twin with ABS.

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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2013, 04:03:56 PM »
What constitutes a "super bike bar"?


Thats what they are called and sold as, small rise and pullback, they are the only bars i use on these old bikes and i love them.... ;)
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2013, 04:05:59 PM »
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Thats what they are called and sold as, small rise and pullback, they are the only bars i use on these old bikes and i love them.... ;)

I was looking for amount of rise and pullback in inches . . . .
1978 CB750A (upgrading very, very slowly)

Past bikes - Honda: SL350, CX650C, CB900C, CB1000C, CM450A; Kawasaki: several 1972 750 H2's; Suzuki: TC90J.

Bikes I want: CX650ED, a mid-sized japanese V-twin with ABS.

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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2013, 04:10:01 PM »
Here's a pic.  The rise is about 3".

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Past bikes - Honda: SL350, CX650C, CB900C, CB1000C, CM450A; Kawasaki: several 1972 750 H2's; Suzuki: TC90J.

Bikes I want: CX650ED, a mid-sized japanese V-twin with ABS.

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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2013, 12:54:16 AM »
They look higher than mine, there are a lot of sites that include the dimensions, i'll measure the set i have laying around ...
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 08:09:13 AM »
I am not entirely sure what super bike bars fall into but something lower like a CB400F bars. I am 5'11 and 210 lbs so lower should be good but too low and my fat stomach will sit on the tank. Not a good look or comfortable.
After crawling through a bike junkyard with my original bars for comparison, I selected a set of bars from a '78 Honda 400 Hawk. The 400 auto uses the same bars. They don't cause the cables or brake hose to bunch up, and they give me a lower height and less pull back. The grips place the hands at a much more comfortable angle - not pointing backward so much as the originals. I've taken two pretty long trips now with these bars and no windshield, and 500 mile days were no problem. With the original bars, pain in the wrist, forearm, and between the shoulder blades set in at around 100 miles.

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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 09:29:33 AM »
Thanks
I roughly  measured the bars on my 77 and came up with around.
30 inches wide
9-10 inches  pull back at the tips
7+ inches rise.
May run out ot JC whitney this weekend and see what they have on the shelf. Not the best source but a place to start and close to  Starved rock state park for a walk. if the sun is out.
I may look at putting the mirrors on the end of the bars too, Opinions??????
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2013, 01:17:24 PM »
I went with bar end mirrors because with lower bars, I found I needed even taller mirrors to see past my arms/shoulders.  Bar ends are the best solution for me.  I don't like the tall mirror look....
1978 CB750A (upgrading very, very slowly)

Past bikes - Honda: SL350, CX650C, CB900C, CB1000C, CM450A; Kawasaki: several 1972 750 H2's; Suzuki: TC90J.

Bikes I want: CX650ED, a mid-sized japanese V-twin with ABS.

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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2013, 04:18:03 PM »
These are BikeMaster Superbike bars








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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 05:59:58 PM »
I will say that the low bars transform the feel of the bike.  If you like sportier, being over the tank a little, it just feels great, IMO.
1978 CB750A (upgrading very, very slowly)

Past bikes - Honda: SL350, CX650C, CB900C, CB1000C, CM450A; Kawasaki: several 1972 750 H2's; Suzuki: TC90J.

Bikes I want: CX650ED, a mid-sized japanese V-twin with ABS.

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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2013, 09:05:54 AM »
Very Nice looking ride BrandEn
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2013, 08:06:32 PM »
what i did was slowly gently bend the bars away from me (reduce the amount of pullback)about 3 inches or so.now there is no achy wrists or back
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2013, 10:34:52 AM »
Yesterday  my son and I drove out to Utica IL to the JC Whitney warehouse with 5 handlebar part numbers after talking to customer service, hoping to look at all of them and compare them to the stock bars removed from my 77A. We got there and the person behind the counter informed me that none were in stock but I could order them and come back to look. We drove the 80 miles back home just to order a set of Euro bars that seem to measure close to what I want. Wasted trip but nice drive and found regular gas at $3.59 compared to $3.99 here. Will post the result when they arrive next week.
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2013, 09:22:48 AM »
Got a set of Bike Master Euro bars #11-0530 yesterday. 3 inch rise and 4.8 inch clear at the center. went on fine and seem to look much better and feel real good. The cables and brake hose were a pain to reroute  but all in all very happy. The bar end mirrors may be here tonight. Something so simple really changes the aperance of the old bike. Not so old-man-ish. My 6 foot 2 inch son might see his knees get in the way of the bars with the new mirrors. Thanks for the pics and thoughts.
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2013, 04:28:05 PM »
I totally agree!  The bars changed the bikes "personality" so much!

Share you pics when you get the mirrors on. 

I wanted to go with napolean's but the price for the "legit" versions were pretty high, so I went with a cheaper version so far.
1978 CB750A (upgrading very, very slowly)

Past bikes - Honda: SL350, CX650C, CB900C, CB1000C, CM450A; Kawasaki: several 1972 750 H2's; Suzuki: TC90J.

Bikes I want: CX650ED, a mid-sized japanese V-twin with ABS.

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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2013, 09:28:25 AM »
Hope the mirrors will come today. If it works out I will get a picture but may need a hand or words of wisdome getting it uploaded to the forum, Electrical-Mechanical things are my thing and I am still lacking in the ways of the Computer and such.
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1984 GL1200 Interstate
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2013, 04:16:54 PM »
Here is a couple pics of my 77A with the Euro bars and mirrors
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2013, 09:14:57 AM »
Last entry on these bars. I went for a 50 mile run on back roads and highway even up to 75 MPH and am totally thrilled with the bars. It is a huge improvment. The bike is more comfortable and feels alot better in corners and exit ramps. It will never be a sport bike but is much improved. By leaning forward into the wind  I no longer have to hang on tightly to the bars at highway speeds to be comfortable.  Now the end of bar mirrors are a bad idea. too far back and low for the type of riding I will do. I need to take my concentration off what is in front of me to get a glance of what is behind and beside me. I will look for something that mounts on the original perches.
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2013, 10:28:28 AM »
Glad you like your bars!

Your experience is much the same as mine.

I wish my bike looked as good.  My $300 barn find bike is still wearing its primer gray from the PO . . . .
1978 CB750A (upgrading very, very slowly)

Past bikes - Honda: SL350, CX650C, CB900C, CB1000C, CM450A; Kawasaki: several 1972 750 H2's; Suzuki: TC90J.

Bikes I want: CX650ED, a mid-sized japanese V-twin with ABS.

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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2013, 12:07:13 PM »
Thanks
The bike is no show piece but good as the daily driver. Lots of rust pits and such. Need to replace the left alt cover from the fall my son took this winter. could use case savers too.
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2013, 05:09:14 AM »
I am not ready with my round top carbs yet but I have put the shorter ( Euro ) bars on my77A and will need to replace the throttle cables as they are already too long to work well. Does anyone have a suggestion for replacment cables that will work with both the round tops and the original twist grip assembly that are shorter and more likely to work properly with my Euro/superbike bars. I love the bars so far.
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Re: Super Bike Bars?
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2013, 09:23:53 AM »
You should be able to provide your information to:

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/custom

You know the ends you want (auto bike throttle grip - round top carbs (tell them the year/model the carbs are from)) - just need to tell them the length.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2013, 09:25:24 AM by kandrtech »
1978 CB750A (upgrading very, very slowly)

Past bikes - Honda: SL350, CX650C, CB900C, CB1000C, CM450A; Kawasaki: several 1972 750 H2's; Suzuki: TC90J.

Bikes I want: CX650ED, a mid-sized japanese V-twin with ABS.