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Offline stereosilence

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Installing pistons with rings
« on: July 05, 2013, 08:51:09 AM »
Any tricks to this before I get started? Aren't the ring openings supposed to be oriented a certain way?

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Re: Installing pistons with rings
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 08:58:53 AM »
Usually oriented 120 degrees apart.
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Re: Installing pistons with rings
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2013, 09:52:51 AM »
Some say to orient them a certain way but and some say it doesn't matter. I'm of the opinion that the rings will naturally rotate as the engine runs. However, even if this is true, spacing them 120 degrees apart is not going to hurt anything.

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Re: Installing pistons with rings
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2013, 10:28:16 AM »
I practised on one piston first, got me the feel for the job ahead.  Used old toothbrush to oil it all. It was not hard, took my time to do it right.
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Re: Installing pistons with rings
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2013, 10:28:43 AM »
I have rebuilt a lot of engines from motorcycles to semi-trucks to locomotives.  I have a few personal rules I follow.

1) Ring gaps should never be in line with thrust surfaces or wrist pins. (That rules out 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions.

2) Top two rings are for keeping combustion gases in the cylinder and should be oriented 180 apart.

3) Bottom ring is for keeping oil out of the cylinder and should still be staggered as far from the middle ring but still follow rule #1.

4) On oil rings that are 2 or three pieces, the spring gap should be 180 away from the ring gap.

So, following these rules, I usually space my gaps at 1:30, 7:30, and 10:30 for First Compression, Second Compression, and Oil Scraper Ring respectively.

I know everyone has their own opinions on ring placement.  I'm not saying mine are the only way, but I've been following these rules for over a decade on literally hundreds of cylinders with no failures yet.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2013, 11:04:21 PM by SOHC Digger »

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Re: Installing pistons with rings
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2013, 10:35:04 AM »
I like the logic behind Diggers method if for no other reason it makes common sense.  I have always staggered my compression and oil rings the same way but never gave the thrust factor a thought.
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Re: Installing pistons with rings
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2013, 09:20:27 PM »
I have always staggered my compression and oil rings the same way but never gave the thrust factor a thought.

That is standard practice for all engines and also specified in the service manual.