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Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« on: August 20, 2006, 04:42:57 PM »
I decided to treat my K2 tank, as it showed signs of rust, and is not what you would consider a sparkling example.  We paint stripped it prior to the treatment, and ... it has seen better days, but was salvageable.

I read numerous posts here on these forums, and various spiels re: rust treatments around the web, and POR15 seemed the ovbious choice to me.  I found a local distributor, and purchased the motorcycle kit. 

From here, I followed the instructions carefully, and used the POR15 kit.  All went well, or so it seemed.  After some time, not sure exactly how long, as It was left in a mates workshop an hour away, much of the treatment started to come loose and flake off. After some close inspection, it appears the tank had been previously treated with some kind of treatment that left a "invisible" plastic film lining the tank.  The two treatmens either reacted, or some part of the POR 15 process loosened the original lining.  I will say here, the POR15 kit is not at fault, as it is not designed to coat over an existing treatment.

To some extent it is a good thing, as the original coating appeared to have been applied over a still rusty surface and would have ended up destroying the tank anyway.  However my dilemma is now hot to remove the remaining layers from the two treatments?  Is the tank a write off? or can I get it chemically cleaned somewhere or somehow?

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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2006, 07:19:29 PM »
I was very happy with the results of using the Kreme kit. It is a 3 part kit. An acid stripper, a rinse and a liner. The stripper left it absolutely bare metal. Maybe if you got that it would strip it bare.

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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2006, 09:33:53 AM »
i believe acetone is the common remedy for stripping old KREEM jobs out - but you say this coating is clear??? that's a new one on me...
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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2006, 01:01:00 PM »
Maybe this is a situation where the 'fill it up with nuts and bolts and shake the crap out of it' is the best option...?
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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2006, 03:39:30 PM »
The por15 has acid to it also. Actually a much advanced product over the kreem. You probably just need to redo step one and let it sit for a while to remove the old liner. then step 2 for etching the metal. Many people skip step3 since 2 does so well.

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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2006, 04:24:30 PM »
The por15 has acid to it also. Actually a much advanced product over the kreem. You probably just need to redo step one and let it sit for a while to remove the old liner. then step 2 for etching the metal. Many people skip step3 since 2 does so well.

I seem to recall when I did mine, POR step one was Marine Clean, a strong degreaser. Do you think that alone will remove the previous liner??
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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2006, 04:45:38 PM »
this liner needs some investigation - has anyone here ever heard of a clear tank liner? what are the properties? can you peel any of it off? is it soft to the touch?
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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2006, 05:52:00 AM »
before you sink a bunch of dough into the POR-15 option, and i love their products, see if you can find something else to dissolve the material.

it's likely the POR product is a readily available chemical that you can buy at any number of stores locally and for much much less money.
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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2006, 06:00:48 AM »
Check out the POR 15 Heavy Duty Kit. It comes with a solvent to remove old tank coatings.

Ah, thanks, I'll keep this in mind for the future.
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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2006, 06:43:40 AM »
Problem is, I didnt realise there was another liner in there till I had done all 3 steps of the POR15 kit and let it sit.  So now I have to try and remove the POR treatment and teh original.  The original, whatever it is, is kinda clear, it has a yellowy tinge to it, and is transparent, think, and kinda plasticy.

I managed to track down another tank for $150 AUD, so I snapped that up, its in 10 times better condition than the one that came with the bike.  I'd still like to salvage the old tank though.  I thought perhaps a caustic tank at an engine reco joint?

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Re: Rusty Tank Dilemma !
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2006, 09:15:44 AM »
These coatings are made to stand up to aromatic and aliphatic hydrocarbon mixtures (gasoline).  First try a ketone.  Acetone or MEK.  If these fail, try methylene chloride.  Keep in mind that the ketones are flammable, and the MeCl is going to srip your skin pretty well too (but put a shine on the inside of your tank).