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Offline timbo750

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Carby Cleaning
« on: October 25, 2013, 03:23:08 PM »
I am trying to find someone in Melbourne to ultrasonic clean my crabs but not having any luck, can anybody help.

The other alternative is something that I can wash/clean them in. The bucket of crab cleaner stuff that is available in the states is no where to be found here, not enough demand I think.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2013, 03:34:45 PM »
You need medication to rid yourself of crabs.  :o

I don't know what you would pay to have the carbs ultrasonically cleaned but you can get a new .5 gallon capacity cleaner for $85 in the USA. You may only "need" it for the carbs, but I'm sure once you have one not only will you be able to clean everything under the sun you can find but also offer your service to others in your area who can't find a place to do it.
Here's an example but I see they only ship to the USA.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kendal-PRO-170-Watts-2-LITER-DIGITAL-ULTRASONIC-CLEANER-w-HEATER-si5-hb4818-/310773361999?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item485b892d4f#shpCntId

I'd be willing to bet the lack of carb cleaner there is not from lack of demand and more of chemical restrictions from your government.
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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 06:15:41 PM »
pine-sol 50/50 with water is just as good a cleaner, then compressed air to make sure holes are clear.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2013, 10:01:33 PM »
air compressor/elbow grease and a guitar "E"string,supercheap or similar carb spray cleaner and more elbow grease,then some elbow grease,then the air compressor again with some elbow grease.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2013, 09:04:48 AM »
Timbo - if you can find a cleaning solution you're comfy with, rig your own ultrasonic cleaner. Attach an electric sander to the outside of a bin with the carbs inside, turn on, and let vibration from sander agitate the solution. Ultra sonic cleaning isn't necessarily better than soaking and scrubbing, but it's easy to assemble.

Just be certain to completely rinse and dry afterwards.

All you have made doing this is an agitation system not even closely related to how Ultrasonic cleaning works. Ultra sonic cleaning is a lot better than soaking and scrubbing.
Ultra sound generating transducers produce ultrasonic waves in the solution by changing size in concert with an electrical signal oscillating at ultrasonic frequency. This creates compression waves in the liquid of the tank which 'tear' the liquid apart, leaving behind many millions of microscopic 'voids' or 'partial vacuum bubbles' (cavitation). These bubbles collapse with enormous energy; temperatures and pressures on the order of 5000k and 20,000psi are achieved, however, they are so small that they do no more than lean and remove surface dirt and contaminants.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2013, 10:09:57 AM »
How old are you?

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2013, 02:04:49 PM »
How old are you?

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2013, 08:37:31 PM »
Hey Tim,

I used Yamalube carburetor dip from the local motorcycle shop on my Goldwing carbies. Didn't seam over aggressive and just let it soak for a couple of day and cleaned with soft brushes and air. It was like soaking it in milk. I am going to buy it again for my CB750 carbs.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2013, 09:25:28 PM »
It's been covered many times over several years, Yamaha carb cleaner is probably the best stuff out there
If your looking for some way to clean carbs without dismantling anything, forget it, just doesn't work
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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2013, 10:06:00 PM »
Thanks Guys, I had managed to clean all the bulky bits on the outside but those tight little corners on the outside are a real pain. The other and main concern is the inside of the throttle body, i didn't want to scrub with anything more than a brass brush.

I will try to get some Yamalube and see if that helps, but I also just found an electronics store that sells a kit to attach to your own container. I will investigate and see if its worh it?

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2013, 12:08:45 AM »
If that Yamaha stuf is still the old Yamaha Carburetor Cleaner, be very prudent and store it in a vented place. It works good but it's very nasty for your health. Don't inhale and avoid skin contact.
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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2013, 08:07:06 AM »
Post all the pics or videos you want, it still is not cleaning 'ultrasonically'. While the vibration is better than just soaking is not as good as ultra sound waves. Just sayin

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2013, 12:17:53 PM »
Just throwing that out there.  Of course a sander duct taped to a bucket of carb cleaner is not ultrasonic, but I bet it would help clean them better than just sitting in carb cleaner.  After all, if he can't find anybody to pay to do it why not try it out.  Im sure he can find a bucket and may even have an old sander to use.  Whats the harm.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2013, 12:22:38 PM »
Just throwing that out there.  Of course a sander duct taped to a bucket of carb cleaner is not ultrasonic, but I bet it would help clean them better than just sitting in carb cleaner.  After all, if he can't find anybody to pay to do it why not try it out.  Im sure he can find a bucket and may even have an old sander to use.  Whats the harm.

I agree completely. My comments were directed at the poster who claimed that ultra sonic cleaning isn't any better than soaking and scrubbing that is clearly better than just soaking. His point was that his ultrasonic set up wasn't better than soaking and scrubbing. My point was that his set up is not ultra sonic cleaning.
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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2013, 12:26:23 PM »
ah ok, didn't read through the posts.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2013, 09:07:39 PM »
thanks for all the info guys. I have found an Ultrasonic kit at an electronics store that can used in any sized container. unfortunately I have some soldering to do but I am more than capable of doing that. it mounts the transducer in a piece of PVC pipe that gets sealed up and then can be placed in any size container. the only thing I am not sure of is if the transducer is less effective when not mounted/attached to the container. If it all works out then I should be able to clean the cases in a large bucket.

I will let you know how I go once I get it all together.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2013, 09:14:36 PM »
I don't think it needs to be attached. Some models the transducer is just lowered into the solution tank and the ultrasonic sound waves are what does the cleaning. In many cases water is all that it needed, no cleaning solution.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2013, 05:58:17 AM »
Transducer actually in the solution should be more effective than attached to tank.
You just want the ultra high frequency waves bouncing around hitting different density material (i.e. the corrosion/sludge vibrates at a different frequency compared to solid metal of carb castings)
You'll probably be quite surprised how much grey goop ends up sitting in the bottom of whatever tank you use
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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2013, 12:16:01 PM »
Just out of curiosity. Do you guys know if the ultrasonic cleaner will remove rust. I am gathering it will remove the flakey bits if its that heavy but not sure about the small stuff. I guess I will find out once I get it going.

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Re: Carby Cleaning
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2013, 12:17:50 PM »
It should remove anything on the surface of the metal including rust. The jewelry cleaner US cleaners remove tarnish which is just another for of rust.