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CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« on: November 03, 2013, 05:18:29 am »
I've heard through the grapevine that the Italian company making replica works magnesium CR750 hubs Motocicli Veloci  has stopped making them and hasn't cast any for over a year now, result being if you don't already have one, you won't be getting one. Does anyone know more about this and the reason for stopping production? It'll put the prices up of any spares on the shelf that's for sure...they were the last supplier openly selling replica hubs. Very sad if it is true.
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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2013, 10:12:31 am »
Simon, Do you have one for sale? Did you sell the "deep dish pizza" oil pan? Keith

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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 03:51:05 am »
know massimo from Motocicli Veloci  pretty well, let me know if you want me to ask him directly what's going on

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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 05:27:03 am »
Turboguzzi,

Please check. I have 2 replica Cr's in work - 1 Daytona version and 1 Endurance version. I would buy 2 of them.

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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 03:08:18 pm »
I am on my way to buy an unfinished CR750 replica hub, but some parts is still missing. Anyone who have an idea where I can get the brake band, arms and the center piece on the chain sprocket side?
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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 01:19:18 pm »
Turboguzzi,

Please check. I have 2 replica Cr's in work - 1 Daytona version and 1 Endurance version. I would buy 2 of them.

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there's the big Novegro Mostrascambio (swapmeet) this weekend , should see him there

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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2013, 06:29:47 am »
well, i've seen Massimo today and problem seems to be that his sub-suppliers are not keen on working on less than a 30 pieces batch, so it's more on hold rather than 'no longer'....

guess that if a certain amount of people will commit with deposits, it could help to kick off production of a batch, otherwise it's hard for him to tie up money on a 30 pieces order from foundry, etc, sell ten and then have 20 pcs sitting on shelves for a few years.

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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2013, 02:36:28 pm »
Hi Turbo,
Thanks for the update, all is not lost, just need a good forum to organise numbers over time  :)

So Turbo how was the swap meet, did you get tempted and come home with a few goodies ? ;) ;D
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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2013, 03:32:40 pm »
Hmmm.......

I could maybe be interested. Any idea of the cost for one Complete hub?
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1960 Honda CB92 Benly
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1962 Honda CS92
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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2013, 08:03:30 am »
Jan, CR replicas, etc. isn't really my stuff, so have no idea about costs, but looking at the other big front brakes in their catlaog i guess it'll be in the 1500-2000 euro.

http://www.motocicliveloci.it/inglese/catalogue/frenitamburo_uk.htm

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2013, 05:06:10 am »
The replica hubs were selling for $3500 USD or £3000 GBP before the supply dried up. If you can get one for less than 2000 Euros I'd be amazed. certainly I know one reseller in the UK who was buying them for £2700 GBP so making only 10% profit on them and that was over two years ago.

The problem with the 2LS large rear is two fold, firstly, large parts of it are magnesium so the machining is specialised and secondly, they are as rear hubs go, very complicated pieces.....ain't nothing cheap about a CR750 rear replica hub!

The reaction to rear hub prices is interesting though. I had a genuine works rear hub available for sale some time ago and people were scathing about a £3000 price tag even though the replicas were the same price at the time. Now that £3000 looks like a bargain....

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Re: CR750 works hubs no longer made by Motocicli Veloci
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2013, 03:58:10 am »
The replica hubs were selling for $3500 USD or £3000 GBP before the supply dried up. If you can get one for less than 2000 Euros I'd be amazed. certainly I know one reseller in the UK who was buying them for £2700 GBP so making only 10% profit on them and that was over two years ago.

The problem with the 2LS large rear is two fold, firstly, large parts of it are magnesium so the machining is specialised and secondly, they are as rear hubs go, very complicated pieces.....ain't nothing cheap about a CR750 rear replica hub!

The reaction to rear hub prices is interesting though. I had a genuine works rear hub available for sale some time ago and people were scathing about a £3000 price tag even though the replicas were the same price at the time. Now that £3000 looks like a bargain....



just shows you how much i know about CR stuff  ::)