testy

Author Topic: Classic Bonneville Racer  (Read 39451 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Classic Bonneville Racer
« on: March 21, 2014, 06:59:10 pm »
 :) :) :) :) I've been doing a lot talking lately...........now its time to start the show. Many of you know that I have been competing at the BUB Speed Trials at the Bonneville Salt Flats in recent years. I have invested a lot of time and a small fortune (for me ;) into a TRIUMPH T20 Tiger Cub.  I have a good friend, Dave Murre, to help me ;) ;) ;)as in I do most of the research and pay the bills, Dave builds the chassis and the motor, as well as most of the tuning and other mechanical chores at the salt-flats.  We travel together in my van with an old Wells Cargo enclosed trailer to hold the bike and tools.

We have been very fortunate to have passed through tech on both of our trips and achieved a class record as well. No blown motors or any other carnage........just TIME-SLIPS and good memories of hanging out in the impound area to get the motor certified for the record.  In 2013 fellow members Grasscutter (Zak from Omaha) and Rxman (Jerry from CO) joined us as part of the pit-crew.

Our top speed on the Tiger Cub has been 89 mph in the push-rod 250cc class. We are making a few changes to the bike for 2014 and hope to get into the mid-90s.

Now begins the SOHC/4 saga...............I've been riding a CB750 since August of 1969. My avatar is my K3 that I have had since new in May of 1973.  I've played with a few others but never did anything to a motor other than change head-gaskets and seals. I went to my first swap-meet in 1999 and bought a very sorrowful excuse of a 1970 K0 thinking I could make some money...........and I surely did. I have made over $3000 selling parts from that bike....and I still have the very clean motor. Over the past 15 years I have gathered about a dozen motors and chassis and now plan to build a bike to compete in the new CLASSIC category of 1956 - 1980 bikes sanctioned for records by the AMA.

The basic frame is from a CB750A because I hope to be able to remove the head with the motor in the frame. If I get a record, the rule is that the motor has to be measured to verify the stated motor size. In this class a .050" over-bore is allowed. My motor will be 761cc but legal for the 750 size category. I will build the chassis to comply with the MODIFIED rules which basically means the seat-height must be above a horizontal line at the top of the rear wheel, and the overall wheelbase can be no more than 10% over stock. There is a host of other rules of course, but the motor and the frame around it must be recognizable as the stated make and model on the entry forms.

We have cut the top-rail from the rear of the frame and made a new 'hoop' to be mounted a little lower and somewhat narrower were it re-attaches to the frame.  This will get my butt a lot lower with a flat seat and no foam, as well as allow my knees to be a few inches narrower so they catch less air.  We have selected an early Kawasaki alloy swingarm that needed very little modification, and moved the oil-tank mounts inward to avoid my right leg.

The front end is converted to a GL1000 set of forks for strength and axle stability. We have several wheel choices but will likely be an 18" rear and a 19" front with 110/90 and 100/90 speed-rated tires to exceed 150 mph.  The motor started as a K4 that was very clean and shows no wear on the internal parts. For this build Dave and I agree that stock rods should work but they will be shot-peened and polished. The J&E 12.5:1 pistons were secured from Bill Benton ($2 Bill). Boring will be done by MELLENNIUM TECHNOLOGIES.........I get a deal and carry their decals...........The head is from an F2 motor and will be ported and polished by Dave Murre.  We know that will cause a loss in compression.........but with a little shaving, decking, skimming, thinner head-gasket and such, we hope to be at 13 to 1.

We are sourcing parts from CYCLE-X, A.P.E. and DYNOMAN. A few others will likely be needed........and all advice is welcome.  I am leaning toward using the Megacycle 125-30 cam but have not ordered until we get the valves installed and measure clearances with the F2 cam.

[imghttp://s928.photobucket.com/user/ddweinhold/media/CB750%20Classic%20Bonneville%20Racer/2014CB750MCG003.jpg.html]http://[/img]   

Dave modded the dyno cover............we kept the starter clutch and gear to use the electric start powered from a remote battery.
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline KayOne

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 187
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2014, 07:07:49 pm »
Sounds exciting. I would love to run Bonneville. My next engine will have a 410 head and barrel. Have to live vicariously for now though...subscribed!!!!!! Best of luck, hopefully you will have as much success with the CB as the Tiger.
CB750 K1 restored
1979 CB750Fz - original except for exhaust, 14000km
1984 VF45F Interceptor - all original, 12000 km
1968 S90 - all original, 2100 miles
1973 H2a, Restored
1973 H1D, next project
CB750K1 (sold)
1976 KZ900 (sold)
1981 CB900F (under restoration)
2015 Yamaha FJ09, my appliance rider

Offline Bill/BentON Racing

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,691
  • Ex Honda Service Manager, Cert. Honda Tech - Racer
    • BentON Racing
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2014, 07:10:16 pm »
Dennis, great start, keep us posted, good luck, Bill
BentON Racing Website
OEM Parts | Service | Custom Builds
BentON Racing Facebook
Over 35 years of experience working on vintage motorcycles, with a speciality in Honda SOHC/4 with a focus on the CB750 and other models as well from 1966 - 1985.
______________________________________
1993 HRC RS125 | 1984 NS400R | 1974 Honda CB750/836cc (Calendar Girl) | 1972 CB 500/550 Yoshi Kitted 590cc | 1965 Honda CB450 Black Bomber | 1972 Suzuki T350 | 1973 88cc | Z50/Falcons Pit Bike | 1967 CA100| 1974 CB350 (400F motor)...and more.
______________________________________
See our latest build 'Captain Marvel' CLICK HERE

Offline scottly

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,299
  • Humboldt, AZ
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2014, 09:40:15 pm »
What dates will you be in B-ville, Dennis?
Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
Helmets save brains. Always wear one and ride like everyone is trying to kill you....

Offline johno

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,083
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2014, 11:20:11 pm »
YAHOO, you bewdy  ;D

I have been hanging out Den for you to start the thread, like the title, like the intro .
Baby I'm locked in for the ride 8)

BRING IT ON BABY ...............JUST MAKE SURE IT SOUNDS NICE DEN, THAT WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The link you posted I cant access, any tricks ?

Best of luck mate..... I owe everyone on the forum a few favours so if you need something let me know, I have a few spare JE pistons  :o :o :o :'(        johno
GRASSHOPPER SOHC HONDAS ARE THE MEANING OF LIFE.

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2014, 12:05:39 pm »
[imghttp://[/img]

Today we set a 'dummy' motor into the frame and practiced removing the valve-cover, the cam-tower, and then the head. All went well with room to spare.

Dave has the neck-races ready for the tapered bearings on the GL1000 stem............so the color choice was made because the lower tree had to be painted.  Red........not Ruby but a close match to the red used on the original Hawk. Massey-Furguson red paint from the local Fleet-Farm store is a good match and more durable for the salt conditions.

I have several photos but still trying to 'make myself smart' regarding photo-bucket.  I used to have it down but now having trouble. Will keep experimenting. 

Thanks for looking in..............and all advice is welcome 8) 8) 8)     
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline Stev-o

  • Ain't no
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 28,501
  • Central Texas
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 12:37:38 pm »
Subscribed.

Is this the pic you tried to post?

'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'71 Honda 750K project.....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer.....K5 Fiddy Dolla Special!......CB500 Fiddy Dolla Special too!!............plus plus plus.........

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2014, 02:35:34 pm »
Stev-O..........That's the first of 3..............so how did it not open in my message?

So over the last few weeks Dave and I are comparing notes and planning for motor parts. I mentioned that way back in the day ( I lived in LA and sold HONDAs by the handful in Santa Monica) I used to send service-customers up the road to a shop where Russ Collins was the service manager. Then I mentioned that Jerry Branch had flowed the K-series heads and thought that with modest porting a set of 32mm Mikuni smooth-bores would be the best choice for a racing application. So Dave says "who? Jerry Branch? He was a guest at a H.D. tuning class I was sent to"  I am relating to you this just to give Dave some background credentials for his many talents. 

Now we find that the RC AT&SF has 35mm intake valves and Dave tells me they sure would be nice for this build. Big Jay..........are you listening? I sent you a PM a few days ago.

The reason for 35s vs the stock 34 is to keep the valve at the same relative position in the chamber after the seats are ground quite deeply because of some pitting on this particular specimen.
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline Stev-o

  • Ain't no
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 28,501
  • Central Texas
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2014, 03:13:12 pm »
Stev-O..........That's the first of 3..............so how did it not open in my message?



Looks like you posted the web page instead of the direct link?
'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'71 Honda 750K project.....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer.....K5 Fiddy Dolla Special!......CB500 Fiddy Dolla Special too!!............plus plus plus.........

Offline Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er

  • This MuthaF'er is getting to be a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,471
  • Bought her new 4/75
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 03:22:36 pm »
Copy and paste "IMG". Nothing else. That easy.
As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2014, 04:07:56 pm »




OK..........Let's see if this works.........
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2014, 04:12:08 pm »
Look out...........I have more...........



Just getting started on the head...........well..........maybe half-way.

Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline johno

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,083
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2014, 07:02:27 pm »
Hi Den,
you got the photobucket thing all sorted , thats great. ;D

I think our class rules are the similiar , that being the case the seat or mudguard must be cover the wheel to the vertical line drawn through the axle, , that back loop bend you have may make it difficult to do that as well as mount a race number plate somewhere ?   just tossing stuff at you Den, I'm sure you have thought about it 100 times.

Also your mate is right,sinking the seats kills the low lift flow on Honda heads, be carefull with 35mm valves, not all cams will be able to use them , I have had to machine the 35m valve edge back .5mm to miss the exhaust on the raised port head, the included valve angles of the Honda head were not designed to go racing , just to be the best touring bike in the world at an affordable price.

If my bike ran well this year my plan was to get a group of 3 forum blokes together of which you were one and send it over for the forum to have some fun with at Lake Bonny , Den you are too big so you would have had to find a jockey max 5 foot 60kg just like Pete the SOHC boy, help and watch.   Any way it was a good idea at the time, wont happen this year but you never know what tomoz brings.  ;) ;D
cheers johno
GRASSHOPPER SOHC HONDAS ARE THE MEANING OF LIFE.

Offline Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er

  • This MuthaF'er is getting to be a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 13,471
  • Bought her new 4/75
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2014, 10:32:34 pm »
Johno,

Dennis is not that TALL. LMAO (sorry Dennis) If he puts another rider on then I don't believe it would be HIS record.
As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)

Offline johno

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,083
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2014, 10:42:52 pm »
Johno,

Dennis is not that TALL. LMAO (sorry Dennis) If he puts another rider on then I don't believe it would be HIS record.

Hell he must be strong then, I seen a photo of him on his facebook holding a motorbike up above his head  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   then again he must have big large strong quads cos he is modifying the frame to fit them in closer ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
GRASSHOPPER SOHC HONDAS ARE THE MEANING OF LIFE.

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2014, 11:28:49 am »
Johno................by August I hope to be in 'fighting-shape' at 185 lbs. That means my leathers will be a little more loose so I added suspenders to the pants ;D ;D ;D

Scotty..........the BUB event is August 24-28........followed by the AHRMA races at Miller Motorsports near SLC.  We plan to run the Triumph on Sunday and Monday AM........then introduce the HONDA to the salt.  Plans may change with an early trial run on the 750.

More pics...........'empty' motor installed for trial fitment


Frame mods..........note the oil tank is inward but the lines and the airbox still fit.



More frame and swingarm mods..............notice why its a 'dummy' motor


Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2014, 11:42:48 am »
More pics and progress to date:



Better than a 'frame-kit'? ;) ;)



Next up is the front-end and mount some wheels and tires for trial fitments of the seat, foot-pegs, steering dampener and header. With forks in place, Dave will start to fabricate an ally front fender with partial skirts.
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 25,383
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2014, 12:57:57 pm »
I have an A frame as well. What tank are you running?  I think F or K, may not fit.
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2014, 01:42:15 pm »
Hello Frank :) :) :)  Will try an SL350 or CL360............both have wide tunnels and offset fillers. Depending on the coil-pack, we may have to make a tank.  Prefer double fuel-taps without reserve. We won't fit a tank until the carbs are mounted.

How are the motor mounts and tach-bung coming along?
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline joesmotos

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 213
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2014, 02:10:02 pm »
Be cool to see you guys out there at BUBS....what is that swingarm off of?I'm down in Texas working right now but when i get done its back to work on the little Honda turbo contraption,if i cant get that going i have a bigger engine im building..either way i will see you guys there in August..good luck!..Joe

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2014, 02:44:16 pm »
Thanks Joe..................I'll be looking for you 8) 8)

The swing-arm is from an early mono-shock Kawasaki dirt bike.  Same pin-bolt diameter.  We will mount twin-shocks by welding a flange to the top of the swing-arm for eye-to-clevis Mulholland shocks with restricted travel.   
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline Sam Green Racing

  • Moderator
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,605
  • I REALLY? hate black rims.
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2014, 04:48:27 pm »
CB350F tank fits.
C95 sprint bike.
CB95 hybrid race bike
CB95 race bike
CB92
RS 175. sprint/land speed bike
JMR Racing CB750A street ET drag bike

Offline Bill/BentON Racing

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,691
  • Ex Honda Service Manager, Cert. Honda Tech - Racer
    • BentON Racing
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2014, 06:25:51 pm »
Dennis, that cover will come off easy now. Install valve train...not so easy. You might want to clearance the part of the frame rt in front of cam chain tunnel where the valve cover 6mm hole is for bolt/screw.The thin ridge on frame rt in the front. Ask me how I know. When you set a record ,it'll come off a lot easier/quicker!! ;D Bill
BentON Racing Website
OEM Parts | Service | Custom Builds
BentON Racing Facebook
Over 35 years of experience working on vintage motorcycles, with a speciality in Honda SOHC/4 with a focus on the CB750 and other models as well from 1966 - 1985.
______________________________________
1993 HRC RS125 | 1984 NS400R | 1974 Honda CB750/836cc (Calendar Girl) | 1972 CB 500/550 Yoshi Kitted 590cc | 1965 Honda CB450 Black Bomber | 1972 Suzuki T350 | 1973 88cc | Z50/Falcons Pit Bike | 1967 CA100| 1974 CB350 (400F motor)...and more.
______________________________________
See our latest build 'Captain Marvel' CLICK HERE

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,221
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2014, 06:49:04 pm »
Sam.............We will give it a look. Trying to stay low at the rear of the tank to 'bury' my helmet. Forward vision will be assisted by a dash-cam with a monitor mounted in the 'tree'.  Your pic is a great thought-provoker...........if I could find a small diameter header (29-31mm inside diameter) with the added distance from the port to the first bend, it may add a little power. No sidewinder, it catches a lot of air.

Bill.............thanks for confirming that little detail............when we practiced the head removal, Dave asked about the cam-sprocket..........so we will have another practice session. These little 'tips' are so important.  We may have more than one cam to try on the salt...........and a slotted sprocket will be used.
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2000 Aprilia Pegaso

Offline Bill/BentON Racing

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,691
  • Ex Honda Service Manager, Cert. Honda Tech - Racer
    • BentON Racing
Re: Classic Bonneville Racer
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2014, 07:43:34 pm »
Top of valves/ springs also get in the way...by just a few thousands! ;D
BentON Racing Website
OEM Parts | Service | Custom Builds
BentON Racing Facebook
Over 35 years of experience working on vintage motorcycles, with a speciality in Honda SOHC/4 with a focus on the CB750 and other models as well from 1966 - 1985.
______________________________________
1993 HRC RS125 | 1984 NS400R | 1974 Honda CB750/836cc (Calendar Girl) | 1972 CB 500/550 Yoshi Kitted 590cc | 1965 Honda CB450 Black Bomber | 1972 Suzuki T350 | 1973 88cc | Z50/Falcons Pit Bike | 1967 CA100| 1974 CB350 (400F motor)...and more.
______________________________________
See our latest build 'Captain Marvel' CLICK HERE

 

;