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Offline Honda Tom

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1970 K0 Power Coating Advise
« on: August 06, 2024, 10:49:09 AM »
Hi All. Back to work on the K0.
Going to powder coat everything that is black. Are their any parts that should not be p-coated?
Any advise on the removal of bushings, masking (frame plate and stamped numbers), areas not to be power coated, etc.?
Any other considerations or questions or directions for the power coating guy???
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Re: 1970 K0 Power Coating Advise
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2024, 11:44:39 AM »
Tom….. I’ve powder coated all my project bikes (except the Sandcast that I wanted to keep closer to original). Areas to really protect are the headstock tube (inside where the bearings go) and the front of the swing area, where the bushings go). I made up wooden “stoppers” that are held in by a long piece of all thread, but you can also ask the shop to mask them properly. I also have a small box of 8mm bolts that I screw into every threaded opening on the parts (like the six screws that hold the battery box and tool tray in place, or the two brackets for your chain guard). A couple of these I’ve welded a large washer on the head. They go in one of the battery box mounting holes and a horn hole. The guys can then hang your frame from them instead of leaving “hook marks” on a frame tube.

Open holes you can clear afterwards with a few file strokes. I never remember to protect the ground lug area (inside of frame at that engine though bolt), but it takes a few seconds with a Dremel disc afterwards…..

I don’t powder coat the triple tress parts, rear turn signal brackets, or key switch bracket. I feel powder looks too “thick” on these smaller bits and I just spray them with black enamel myself. On that subject, tell your powder coating shop you don’t want your bike to look like it was dipped! Ask them to cover it all, but not too much.
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Re: 1970 K0 Power Coating Advise
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2024, 12:33:58 PM »
I'd have had several frames etc. PC'ed.
I assume you're having everything blasted before PC'ing.
Carefully remove the VIN plate. It won't survive, either the blast or the bake.
(Covered it might survive the blasting but the baking can damage it. There's stickum under the plate that will burn up.)

As far as the stamped VIN, unless the PC is really thick, the VIN is lightly stamped, or your DMV is really picky it shouldn't be a problem.
I've never had any trouble reading the stamped VIN on my bikes after having a frame coated.
The stamped VIN can be protected if you prefer during blasting to make sure they don't blast it away!

Remove the swing arm bushings, you should be replacing them anyway.
If you want to reuse the steering races I would remove them, they might fall out during the heat cycle.
(There's also usually grease inside the neck tube that's hard to remove if you leave the races in and can contaminate the PC during the bake.)

As far as threaded holes, any competent PC shop (one that knows how to PC bike frames) will have silicone plugs for all the threaded holes but never hurts to verify they understand what areas should not get PC'ed.

I only PC the large parts, frame, swing arm, stands. The rest I paint myself.
As far as finish, the PC'ers should have several choices, from high gloss to mat. I usually go with semi-gloss, close to the original paint.
Also, as Benelli states you'll have to remove some the coating at the ground points.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2024, 11:12:05 PM by CycleRanger »
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Re: 1970 K0 Power Coating Advise
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2024, 12:44:07 PM »
You won’t damage the stamped VIN from blasting unless somebody intentionally tried to erode it. It will be plenty readable after powder coat. Remove the VIN plate drive rivets. Any decent shop is going to mask the head tube, swing arm pivot etc. If you need to touch up any areas or remove the powder coat afterwards for ground lugs, you can do so easily with a Roloc disc afterwards.

Don’t over think it. It’s not magic and these guys coat thousands of pieces annually if they’re any good.
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Re: 1970 K0 Power Coating Advise
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2024, 05:59:40 PM »
Hey Tom
I just read your project thread on your K0.
Did you get the side stand replaced? (You left the thread hanging untouched since 2020)

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,184152.msg2132149.html#msg2132149

That bike you pictured for the patina and 70s paint job was a friend's bike I was working on in 2020, in Oceanside.
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My current rides
1975 K5 Planet Blue my summer ride, it was a friend's bike I worked with at the Honda shop in 76, lots of fun to be on it again
1976 K6 Anteres Red rebuilding project, was originally my brother's that I set up from the crate, it'll breath again soon!
Project 750s, 2 K4, 2 K6, 1 K8
2008 GL1800 my daily ride and cross country runner

Prior bikes....
1972 Suzuki GT380 I had charge of it for a year in 1973 while my friend was deployed and learned to love street riding....
New CB450 K7 after my friend returned...
New CB750 K5 Planet Blue, demise by ex cousin in law at 9,000 miles...
New CB750 K6 Anteres Red, to replace the totaled K5, I sold this K6 at 45k in 1983, I had heavily modified it, many great memories on it and have missed it greatly.....
1983 GL1100A, 1999 GL1500 SE, 1999 GL1500A