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Offline HB-1fan

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cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« on: March 09, 2010, 10:12:28 am »
When I checked the "Benellipart link in Georges post I noticed a pic of this oil pan. I printed the picture and compared it to a cb550 pan and it looks like an exact match. If so, it would be a nice addition to any race motor. Worth looking into for anyone presently racing this engine.  Any opinions on using the Bennelli pickup or extending the honda strainer pickup??

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.benelliparts.de/&ei=Y46WS96-OY2wtgeUpdjsDQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbenelliparts.de%26hl%3Den

Still just throwing it out there,

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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 10:48:59 am »
The CB650 sump pan is a direct bolt on and is quite a bit deeper than the 500/550.
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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 01:49:02 pm »
Don't forget to lower your oil pickup if you are changing pans?
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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 04:02:18 pm »
true.. use the 650 oil pickup with the pan.
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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 01:30:31 am »
Velly interlessting ;D ;D ;D seems a worthwhile mod. 8) 8)

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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 05:14:55 am »
How much extra capacity does this 650 pan hold??
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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 07:27:53 am »
I believe it's around a 1/3 litre. It may interfere with some aftermarket exhaust as it's about 16mm deeper. It is however well finned and has a nice baffle around half the oil pickup.

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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 11:45:49 am »
On our Cb500 racer we use also the 650 oilpan and pickup.
Now the total oil capacity is about 3,9 litres.
I had to grind off some cooling ribs to fit it above the  exhaustpipes collector.
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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 01:50:04 pm »
  Excellent.  Anyone know what model years should fit? 
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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 03:29:26 pm »
  Excellent.  Anyone know what model years should fit? 

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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 03:30:11 pm »
On our Cb500 racer we use also the 650 oilpan and pickup.
Now the total oil capacity is about 3,9 litres.
I had to grind off some cooling ribs to fit it above the  exhaustpipes collector.

my oil capacity with a cooler is actually over 4 quarts.
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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2014, 08:16:43 am »
Looking to replace the pan for my 72 cb500. From what I'm reading, this won't fit, correct?
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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2014, 09:20:03 am »
On our Cb500 racer we use also the 650 oilpan and pickup.

Not necessarily plug and play because of the pickup.  I think it may need to be massaged in a way, can't remember.  But the pan is a direct fit, just a bit deeper.   Using this pan also allows the use of the 650's primary chain tensioner too.
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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2014, 04:19:54 am »
When I checked the "Benellipart link in Georges post I noticed a pic of this oil pan. I printed the picture and compared it to a cb550 pan and it looks like an exact match. If so, it would be a nice addition to any race motor. Worth looking into for anyone presently racing this engine.  Any opinions on using the Bennelli pickup or extending the honda strainer pickup??

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.benelliparts.de/&ei=Y46WS96-OY2wtgeUpdjsDQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAkQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbenelliparts.de%26hl%3Den

Still just throwing it out there,

HB

Back to the start of the threat:

A lot of Benelli drivers use the oil pan of the CB 650 (of course including the oil pickup).
So you can match Honda and Benelli oil pans.
So you can also use the big special oil pan from "Benelli parts".

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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2014, 04:57:40 am »
By now you know the pan fits. The only hindrance might be clearance if you use a header, this pan is 15-16mm deeper. If it's a 500 you won't need the gearbox trochoid pump feed so either use the 650 oil pickup & block that off or pick up a CB400F pickup, cut off the neck (longer plus uses an o-ring) and weld it to your 500 pickup to extend it. Then just cut off the legs that hold it off the bottom of the pan as the 650 pan has those three legs cast in.

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Re: cb500/550 deep sump oil pan?????
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2014, 02:00:01 pm »
Thanks for the quick replies! I think I'll with getting a 500 pan, but good to know for future reference! -
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