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Offline Imago

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Re: CB500 Carb Rebuild kit from Cruzinimage - Review & Photos
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2015, 01:10:19 PM »
Have you a link for his kits?

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Re: CB500 Carb Rebuild kit from Cruzinimage - Review & Photos
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2015, 01:22:15 PM »
... except when I put the spring in the seat... the aftermarket one sat just a tiny bit higher. 

I measured the internal depth of the seat using the plunger on my digital calipers and the aftermarket seat was around 0.35mm shallower.

I guess the implications of this is that the floats will sit slightly higher potentially putting more gas in the bowl?  If you check and adjust your float heights using the clear tube method i assume this is easily corrected?

Maybe somebody better than I might want to speculate as to the implications.. if any at all
Implications? Yes.
your 'shop manual' float height will be out the door because of the height difference.  This is common with aftermarket valves and seats.
you will need to adjust and set the float height based on fuel level (clear tube method)

great write-up, btw  8)
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Re: CB500 Carb Rebuild kit from Cruzinimage - Review & Photos
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2015, 08:46:10 PM »
Have you a link for his kits?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/71-73-HONDA-CB500K-CB500F-CARB-REPAIR-KIT-4-REPAIR-KITS-INCLUDE-CI-1050CR-/181553972750?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2a4575c60e&vxp=mtr
This seems to be an Australian listing and I can't get shipping to Canada, or even contact the buyer to ask... is there a US or Canadian link?

I also need engine gaskets, engine seals and engine bolts, (SS allen head). One stop shopping anywhere?

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Re: CB500 Carb Rebuild kit from Cruzinimage - Review & Photos
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2018, 04:21:56 PM »
I have a 1972 CB500 I'm worried as to where would I buy just a gasket, oring and float carb rebuild kit? Or any other proper as suggestions would be great!

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Re: CB500 Carb Rebuild kit from Cruzinimage - Review & Photos
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2018, 05:46:55 PM »
I assume you mean the float valve, not the float?
After trying aftermarket kits on several bikes in the late 70's and early 80's  I gave up on them. There's apparently a lot more to making a jet than meets the eye: orifice smoothness, length of sized orifice hole, size of counterbored hole - these are my guesses as to why Keihin jets are consistent and aftermarket ones... not so much. The needles can at least be measured easily and compared to OEM but I've never needed to replace a needle with aftermarket, I have a few used carbs I can strip parts from.
I haven't looked lately (kinda retired from working on other peoples bikes) but Honda still had carb gasket kits and float valves for our engines a few years ago. The float valves particularly were used on MANY models and may still be on some new bikes/ATVs/lawnmowers/etc. Unless something has changed, the O-rings and bowl gaskets (another O-ring) are NOT ethanol stable so you should try and get viton. The bowl gasket works OK but swells and needs a day drying out after removing the bowl to shrink back to size, the fuel crossover O-rings tend to split so fuel dribbles out onto the hot motor. Having to disassemble the rack for that is a major PITA. Or use ethanol-free gas if available.
The price for OEM float valves is high, but they work. Same with jets, if available from Honda or anywhere as genuine Keihin... worth the price premium. Jets pretty much never wear out, the main jet and needle can wear but it takes a lot of miles. For tuning I have a fair selection of mains and pilots for some models, there are apparently sources for Keihin parts (jetsrus.com - read this http://www.jetsrus.com/FAQs/FAQ_genuine_jets.html). The air/fuel screw is not critical but your "best" setting probably won't match the Honda spec since the taper is not exactly the same.
Of course aftermarket kits may have improved with no reason to avoid them now.
The cost difference for me was less than the time cost of additional carb stack out/in cycles to deal with when tuning (or when a new set of float valves leaked after a week or two). Once (or maybe five) times bitten, next time shy. For a single or dual carb motor where they can be out and back in in a minute with no blood loss, OK. For quad carb sticks, ossified spacers, and sardine can fit intake boots, I will go with OEM.
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Re: CB500 Carb Rebuild kit from Cruzinimage - Review & Photos
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2018, 12:36:38 AM »
go here.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cb500+kiehin+carb+kits
I had keyster #100 (1mm) main jets I tested with a good brand new 1mm drill bit and the shank wouldn't pass through,it slid like a precision bushing through a genuine kiehin #100 jet!so the crap ones are over or under size,genuine is best,couple crap jets with running pods and your all by yourself!
« Last Edit: April 27, 2018, 02:16:21 AM by dave500 »

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Re: CB500 Carb Rebuild kit from Cruzinimage - Review & Photos
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2018, 07:03:20 AM »
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New viton tipped float needles and viton bowl gaskets solved my issues.
And where did you get those?

4 into 1 has the needles for $5 each:

http://4into1.com/k-l-keihin-float-needle-rubber-viton-tip-honda-cm200t-cb400t-cx500-cb550-cb750/

and the bowl gaskets for $3 each (on sale, normally $5 each):

http://4into1.com/shaped-o-ring-float-bowl-gasket-honda-cb550-cb750-1977-1978/

or set of four bowl gaskets for $11 (on sale, normally $16):

http://4into1.com/shaped-o-ring-float-bowl-gaskets-4-pack-honda-cb550-cb750-1977-1978/

and they have the "Keyster" set with four float needles and four bowl gaskets. I believe the Keyster parts may be Viton but would have to verify, since it's not mentioned in the description:

http://4into1.com/keyster-carburetor-float-bowl-gasket-float-needle-set-honda-cb550-cb750-1977-1978/


I have learned to read the descriptions carefully now. The description must indicate "Viton" or I keep looking. 4 into 1 has a set of four bowl gaskets and four float needles for $20 but nowhere in the description does it read "Viton" so I would be leery of this part:

http://4into1.com/replica-carburetor-float-bowl-gasket-float-needle-set-honda-cb550-cb750-1977-1978/


Float needles for the PD carbs can still be had from Honda, part number 16011-KCK-910, but I'll be dam!?ed if I'm going to pay $20 EACH for just the float needles...

i used 4into1 for almost all of my rebuild parts, the only things they didnt have were pistons and a few other small items,, good pricing and good quality
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