I'll run it through the morning rush hour and hopefully get a picture, with maybe an eye to eye as the crow flies shot measure, and either an outside or inside length shot, that should be excellent enough to get. I've never had one, for either 400F. I once went to a junk yard to look and ended up buying a semi truck trailer loaded with crashed (yet not severe) motorcycles, for $35.00. Next morning there was a pile of mostly honda 450s and 550s, 750s. There it was...and no center stand, nor hook. I had a pick a park in my backyard for 10yrs. Well thanks for the help.