Topic: Fun with an ARD mag.

[Don R]

   I missed the timing the first try and knocked a couple teeth off of the intermediate gear on the starter. 24V spins it like a mixer. I used the paint marks on the mag rotor and found TDC on #1 with a piston stop. I called it a night when I realized I had reversed the firing order rotation when I walked to the opposite side of the engine.  The wires are correct now but I didn't confirm #1 except from memory. I'll take it back off and confirm it tomorrow.
 It is throwing a spark now for sure, it's just a matter of timing. #2 carb is leaking too dagnabit.

[Don R]

 I updated the drag bike project thread so I don't have to bore you guys with multiple examples of how dumb I can be. 

[Don R]

 I just read 15 or so pages on the ARD and never did see instructions for an old style ARD/FM mag. I have the printed pages for a late type and they are different.  I'm still unsure the lower drive is all there, two tiny set screws are all that hold the pulley on the shaft? 
 I see it as a failure as a product with no built in timing wheel in the drive or usable precise timing marks. I've marked my cutdown flywheel and drilled a dyno cover. Am getting close but what a pain.
 

[RAFster122s]

Your definition of what's fun is different than mine...

[Medyo Bastos]

Don take a look in the garage-> http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/ard_magneto_manual/ard_fm.pdf

J-Lo has additional info here -> https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?share_fid=1935926&share_tid=55399&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etapatalk%2Ecom%2Fgroups%2Fhondachopper%2Fviewtopic%2Ephp%3Ft%3D55399&share_type=t&link_source=app

Touch base with him. He and Grimace spent a lot of time with them.

Sammy posted some good info here too ->

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?share_fid=13548&share_tid=14994&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums%2Esohc4%2Enet%2Findex%2Ephp%3Ftopic%3D14994&share_type=t&link_source=app


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[Don R]

Thank you for those , I printed them. It's a lot less info than the newer type. My biggest question is the preset at 35* part, the only marks on mine are ones I made myself which seem to be suspect. I'm not racing this beast but it would be awesome to start it at a few car/bike shows and ride it once in a while.
 
  I used to think I was reasonably intelligent and knew a few things about magnetos and engines but this beast fools and frustrates me all of the time. I think an exorcist or medicine man might be called for.  I'd burn some sage but the leaking gas might light up.
  All that said, I predict it will run today.  I believe the current timing is closer to 45* so I'll back it off a top tooth before trying again. With 24 volts the mag will light up the timing light, I just need to do the math on the diameter and degrees on what's left of the flywheel/starting clutch.

 I marked TDC on the flywheel and using a bit of math marked it approx. 30* advanced. I got the timing light to light directly on the advance mark. Thanks for the help Medyo. 

[Don R]

 My old school timing mark. (No usable dyno covers were harmed to make this part) Extreme lightening on flywheel, when I got there was no rotor.