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Offline cj8990

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Split Case Questions
« on: June 16, 2016, 10:54:59 AM »
So I ended up splitting the case to change the timing chain.  So far I've ordered basically every seal off this..

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=82355.0

And a new timing chain and primary chain.

Anything else that should be replaced while I'm here?

Also Ive seen warnings about the loose needle bearings.. There are only two of these on the transmission shafts right?  I don't have to worry about any other small things that I might have overlooked during diassembly and are now laying on the floor somewhere?

Both transmission shafts have a half ring (kind of like a piston ring).. Are these fine to reuse? What purpose do they serve? And they only go on the top even though the bearing has a full groove or did I lose the other half?

Sealing the case.. Plain old rtv is fine or do I need some special sealant? 

Sorry for the block of questions.. Appreciate any help.

-Corey

Offline Bodi

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Re: Split Case Questions
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 11:28:22 AM »
NO RTV!!!!
Use Threebond, Hondabond, Yamabond case sealant... same thing with different names.
The rings locate the bearings - fine to reuse and, probably, NLA anyway.
Check the primary chain slack: it's not cheap to replace but since you're in there it's worth checking. There's likely some wear pad thing for primary chain slack to hit: if it's badly worn then you can assume the chain has stretched too much.
Inspect the shift forks for worn tips or being bent. Again NLA but used good are better than bad ones. You can't really see the drum grooves without pulling the forks but the groove corners can get badly rounded and cause weird shifting problems too.
If you have a few bucks to spare, replace the sprocket shaft outer bearing. This one takes a beating. Only available from Honda (or CMSNL et al) as the groove is unusual. You can have a bearing shop grind a groove to match but that costs more than an OEM or NOS bearing.
The needle bearings are rarely bad, last forever unless someone has severely ignored oil changes. If you disassemble the transmission shafts you can check for damaged rollers or cages. Take pictures or something as they come apart, reassembly order is NOT obvious.

Offline DaveBarbier

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Re: Split Case Questions
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016, 12:24:47 PM »
NO RTV!!!!

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Check out the parts diagram on CMSNL.com to see if you're missing anything.