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The Snail Carb Synch Tool... new source and info.
« on: November 29, 2006, 07:53:49 AM »
Anyone ever use one of these?  I was reading about them in Bike magazine the other day.

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Re: The Snail Carb Synch Tool
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2006, 08:04:01 AM »
seems like it should work but, you still never get a constant reference while adjusting the other carbs.  single types like that can be a real pain in the a$$ on something with 4 carbs.
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Re: The Snail Carb Synch Tool
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2006, 10:50:08 AM »
seems like it should work but, you still never get a constant reference while adjusting the other carbs.  single types like that can be a real pain in the a$$ on something with 4 carbs.

Could you use 4 simultaneously?  I'm wondering if I could use it or a set of them to sync my CR29's, which do not have vacuumm fittings.  At the moment, they have only been bench sync'ed, and I will likely mount vacuum fittings; however, this might be easier.
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Re: The Snail Carb Synch Tool
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2006, 10:55:23 AM »
well, if they seal off the intakes  ::)... not for very long 
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2006, 12:01:45 PM »
Thanks, heffay, I wasn't thinking that you have to hold it in place, but that makes sense.  I think I may pick up one and play around with it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2006, 01:19:24 PM »
more of what i was meaning is if they actually seal off the intake ( like a compression tester )  the bike won't run very well on that cylinder due to lack of air... sparty, what did the magazine say?
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2006, 05:11:09 AM »
more of what i was meaning is if they actually seal off the intake ( like a compression tester )  the bike won't run very well on that cylinder due to lack of air... sparty, what did the magazine say?

The magazine article was in Bike.  A mechanic was tuning a sport bike with this gadget.  He said he always uses it and it works really well as it helps him dial in the individual carbs.

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2006, 12:54:12 PM »
Back in my Dad's college days, he had a 912 and used the "uni-syn" brand snail sync tool. He said it was the biggest pain in the a$$ to use ever.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2006, 03:10:15 PM »
more of what i was meaning is if they actually seal off the intake ( like a compression tester )  the bike won't run very well on that cylinder due to lack of air... sparty, what did the magazine say?

The magazine article was in Bike.  A mechanic was tuning a sport bike with this gadget.  He said he always uses it and it works really well as it helps him dial in the individual carbs.

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so far you get a D+ on your book report...  ;)  can anyone verify whether or not the intake is cut off with this device?
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2006, 05:51:05 PM »
more of what i was meaning is if they actually seal off the intake ( like a compression tester )  the bike won't run very well on that cylinder due to lack of air... sparty, what did the magazine say?

The magazine article was in Bike.  A mechanic was tuning a sport bike with this gadget.  He said he always uses it and it works really well as it helps him dial in the individual carbs.

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I didn't know I was being tested  :D  In that case, the air intake is not "cut-off" with this tool.  The tool has air ducts in the top/sides, which are not shown in the picture.  The pictures in the magazine are much better.  I'll re-read the article while I'm on the crapper. :P

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so far you get a D+ on your book report...  ;)  can anyone verify whether or not the intake is cut off with this device?
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Re: The Snail Carb Synch Tool... new source and info.
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2006, 04:52:16 AM »
Anyone ever use one of these?  I was reading about them in Bike magazine the other day.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&category=43998&viewitem=&item=200043005192

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Here is some additional information on the flow meter. http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=572

In the UK the flow meter sells for around 5 pounds.  In the US it is $40+   Ripoff.

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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2006, 10:36:14 AM »
thanks for the link spart... 40 bucks is dumb when i could buy something for a couple of bucks more that metered all the carbs at once.

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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2006, 10:47:01 AM »
I dont know hef. Look at it this way. You dont have to pull the tank off and hang it or a aux tank above you with a long hose that gets in the way. You meerly pull off the airbox or pods and go to town.  I am sure that it works fine and just require experience as does any carb sync tool.  I do agree that an article would be nice though.

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Re: The Snail Carb Synch Tool... new source and info.
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2006, 01:13:05 PM »
I dunno....after having to fight with my damn airbox to get it to go back on I think I would rather remove my tank and hang a reservoir.

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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2006, 01:24:03 PM »
You just dont talk to your airbox the right way!   ;D

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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2006, 01:46:11 PM »
when i learned to take short intermissions during carb installs to break stuff... i became a much happier person
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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2006, 01:58:06 PM »
Ah PHOOEY! He is not equipped with the sword of a thousand truths! ;D

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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2006, 02:11:58 PM »
I'm going to order one and file a report. :)
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2006, 09:20:17 PM »
Watch This Space ;)

Just ordered the snail.  Am now waiting will breath bated.  Will report soon.  Out.
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2006, 03:40:14 AM »
You still have to remove the tank to adjust the carbs Eldy.....................  :-\ ;D

I've got some CR carbs for my racer project, but I'm going to turn up some alloy carb adapters to go betwixt carbs and head, with take offs for vac gauges. I've seen an article in a US mag where they used something like a big hypodermic needle pierced thru the rubber inlets as vacuum takeoffs, but I wouldn't recommend it. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2006, 05:33:23 AM »
Removing the tank is OK for me.  I'm going to give it a go just to see if I can avoid tapping the intake adapters for vacuum fittings.  I'm using velocity stacks, so I figure it should fit.
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2006, 06:27:09 AM »
Hmm must be another superiour design point of the K8. I would not have to remove the tank, maybe just lift it up some! :D

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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2006, 09:13:02 AM »
Hmm must be another superiour design point of the K8. I would not have to remove the tank, maybe just lift it up some! :D

So you just hold up the rear of the tank with one hand and adjust the carbs with the other two? 

Have you actually synchronized your carbs with the tank on the bike or is this just an hypothesis? 

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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2006, 11:29:25 AM »
With current sync tools, you have to remove the tank to get at the vacuum ports. with this device, that is not needed. as such you should be able to lift the back of the tank with a strap a couple of inches and that is enough room to get to the adjusters.

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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2006, 10:55:35 PM »
With current sync tools, you have to remove the tank to get at the vacuum ports. with this device, that is not needed. as such you should be able to lift the back of the tank with a strap a couple of inches and that is enough room to get to the adjusters.

Ha ha, you shoulda posted that in the BS post Eldy, on your poxy K8, you've gotta take the tops off the carbs to synch them, but I'm guessing you've never actually done that mate, or you'd know what you're talking about? ;D
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